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    Black Irish citizens are twice as likely to experience discrimination in seeking employment as white Irish residents and black non-Irish people are five times more likely to experience discrimination, new research has found.

    The survey also discovered that when in employment, black non-Irish workers are more than two-and-a-half times more likely to be discriminated against.

    The report Ethnicity and Nationality in the Irish Labour Market was jointly published on Tuesday by the Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (IHREC) and the Economic and Social Research Institute (ESRI).

    Frances McGinnity of the ESRI, the lead author, said different ethnic groups have different experiences even when they are all Irish citizens.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/soci...tion-1.3734589
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Black Irish citizens are twice as likely to experience discrimination in seeking employment as white Irish residents and black non-Irish people are five times more likely to experience discrimination, new research has found.

    The survey also discovered that when in employment, black non-Irish workers are more than two-and-a-half times more likely to be discriminated against.

    The report Ethnicity and Nationality in the Irish Labour Market was jointly published on Tuesday by the Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (IHREC) and the Economic and Social Research Institute (ESRI).

    Frances McGinnity of the ESRI, the lead author, said different ethnic groups have different experiences even when they are all Irish citizens.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/soci...tion-1.3734589
    I thought that only happened in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Black Irish citizens are twice as likely to experience discrimination in seeking employment as white Irish residents and black non-Irish people are five times more likely to experience discrimination, new research has found.

    The survey also discovered that when in employment, black non-Irish workers are more than two-and-a-half times more likely to be discriminated against.

    The report Ethnicity and Nationality in the Irish Labour Market was jointly published on Tuesday by the Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (IHREC) and the Economic and Social Research Institute (ESRI).

    Frances McGinnity of the ESRI, the lead author, said different ethnic groups have different experiences even when they are all Irish citizens.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/soci...tion-1.3734589
    Not at all surprising.

    Case in point .. Boston.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Black Irish citizens are twice as likely to experience discrimination in seeking employment as white Irish residents and black non-Irish people are five times more likely to experience discrimination, new research has found.

    The survey also discovered that when in employment, black non-Irish workers are more than two-and-a-half times more likely to be discriminated against.

    The report Ethnicity and Nationality in the Irish Labour Market was jointly published on Tuesday by the Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (IHREC) and the Economic and Social Research Institute (ESRI).

    Frances McGinnity of the ESRI, the lead author, said different ethnic groups have different experiences even when they are all Irish citizens.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/soci...tion-1.3734589

    I haven't heard that term in AGES! Are we talking 'black and Irish'? Or 'black Irish'. There is a difference. I might be 'black Irish'. DNA that hailed from the invaders from "SPAIN".
    For those who don't know the history 'invaders', the SPANISH Armada, came to Ireland back in the 16th century (I believe around then).

    Now of COURSE 'black and Irish' will be discriminated against in Ireland.

    PS I'm betting a MAJORITY of AFRICAN AMERICANS who DESCENDED FROM US SLAVES here are 'black Irish' at the DNA level. Most African American's have what about 17-20% EUROPEAN DNA? How much is Irish? Anyone see Gone with the Wind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Not at all surprising.

    Case in point .. Boston.
    The practice of Cherokee and other Southeast Native Americans identifying as "Black Dutch" may have originated during and after the 1830s Indian Removal era. They may have attempted to "pass" and avoid being removed to Indian Territory or stigmatized by what became a majority Anglo-American society.

    Some Native Americans, mainly from the Five Civilized Tribes of the Southeast, claimed "Black Dutch" or "Black Irish" heritage in order to purchase land in areas which United States treaties and other laws had reserved for people of European descent.

    Once they owned the land, such families who had escaped forced removal would not admit to their Native American heritage, for fear of losing their property.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-Dutch
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Black Irish citizens are twice as likely to experience discrimination in seeking employment as white Irish residents and black non-Irish people are five times more likely to experience discrimination, new research has found.

    The survey also discovered that when in employment, black non-Irish workers are more than two-and-a-half times more likely to be discriminated against.

    The report Ethnicity and Nationality in the Irish Labour Market was jointly published on Tuesday by the Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (IHREC) and the Economic and Social Research Institute (ESRI).

    Frances McGinnity of the ESRI, the lead author, said different ethnic groups have different experiences even when they are all Irish citizens.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/soci...tion-1.3734589
    As an example, an exhibit at the state-run Oakville Indian Mounds Park and Museum in Lawrence County, Alabama gives the history of the term among Cherokee in the local area after Indian Removal:

    Before the Indian Removal Act in 1830, many of Lawrence County's Cherokee people were already mixed with white settlers and stayed in the country of the Warrior Mountains. They denied their ancestry and basically lived much of their lives in fear of being sent West. Full bloods claimed to be Black Irish or Black Dutch, thus denying their rightful Native American blood.

    After being fully assimilated into the general population years later, these Irish Cherokee mixed-blood descendants, began reclaiming their Native American heritage in the land of the Warrior Mountains, Lawrence County, Alabama. During the 1900 U.S. Census only 78 people claimed their Native American heritage. In 1990, more than 2000 individuals claimed Native American descent. Today more than 4000 citizens are proud to claim their Native American heritage and are members of the Echota Cherokee tribe.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-Dutch
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    blacks are like 1% of the Irish population. Can't be that huge of a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    blacks are like 1% of the Irish population. Can't be that huge of a problem.
    Used to be pretty much zero, first time I heard of a black Irishman was Phil Lynott of Thin Lizzy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    I haven't heard that term in AGES! Are we talking 'black and Irish'? Or 'black Irish'. There is a difference. I might be 'black Irish'. DNA that hailed from the invaders from "SPAIN".
    For those who don't know the history 'invaders', the SPANISH Armada, came to Ireland back in the 16th century (I believe around then).

    Now of COURSE 'black and Irish' will be discriminated against in Ireland.

    PS I'm betting a MAJORITY of AFRICAN AMERICANS who DESCENDED FROM US SLAVES here are 'black Irish' at the DNA level. Most African American's have what about 17-20% EUROPEAN DNA? How much is Irish? Anyone see Gone with the Wind?
    Yeah. I always thought 'Black Irish' were the descendants of the Spanish Armada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Not at all surprising.

    Case in point .. Boston.
    But but but Boston is liberal as all hell....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Yeah. I always thought 'Black Irish' were the descendants of the Spanish Armada.
    Spanish Netherlands lasted from 1556 to 1714...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    I haven't heard that term in AGES! Are we talking 'black and Irish'? Or 'black Irish'. There is a difference. I might be 'black Irish'. DNA that hailed from the invaders from "SPAIN".
    For those who don't know the history 'invaders', the SPANISH Armada, came to Ireland back in the 16th century (I believe around then).

    Now of COURSE 'black and Irish' will be discriminated against in Ireland.

    PS I'm betting a MAJORITY of AFRICAN AMERICANS who DESCENDED FROM US SLAVES here are 'black Irish' at the DNA level. Most African American's have what about 17-20% EUROPEAN DNA? How much is Irish? Anyone see Gone with the Wind?



    My wife is black irish, the real black irish, lol that was a confusing article at first lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Spanish Netherlands lasted from 1556 to 1714...
    Cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    My wife is black irish, the real black irish, lol that was a confusing article at first lol
    I think anything out of the mouth of guno has something to do with Africans. (Just a guess)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Cool.
    My family was Dutch and worked for Prince Maurice of Nassau.. Dutch West Indies company .......
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