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    Default How much has Obamacare saved the American people?

    Here's a way to think about the success of Obamacare in slowing healthcare inflation. It's been about eight years and eight months since Obamacare was signed into law. We can compute healthcare inflation for 660 eras of that length leading up to the passage of Obamacare. Among the 660 eras, the lowest healthcare inflation was 30%, the highest was 137%, the average was 64%, and the median was 53%.

    So, how has the last eight years and eight months looked in that context? Well, it turns out, healthcare inflation has been 26% -- significantly below the prior record-low for a period of that length. The savings from that low rate of healthcare cost growth is substantial. For example, we spend about $10,224 per capita on healthcare today. If, since Obamacare passed, healthcare costs had risen in accordance with an average rate of inflation rather than the record low rate we've had, it would be $12,898. So, for a family of four, you could think of the difference as a $10,696 of additional healthcare costs, just for a single year. And that figure gets bigger every year that our healthcare spending growth remains below average.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CPIMEDSL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneuli View Post
    Here's a way to think about the success of Obamacare in slowing healthcare inflation. It's been about eight years and eight months since Obamacare was signed into law. We can compute healthcare inflation for 660 eras of that length leading up to the passage of Obamacare. Among the 660 eras, the lowest healthcare inflation was 30%, the highest was 137%, the average was 64%, and the median was 53%.

    So, how has the last eight years and eight months looked in that context? Well, it turns out, healthcare inflation has been 26% -- significantly below the prior record-low for a period of that length. The savings from that low rate of healthcare cost growth is substantial. For example, we spend about $10,224 per capita on healthcare today. If, since Obamacare passed, healthcare costs had risen in accordance with an average rate of inflation rather than the record low rate we've had, it would be $12,898. So, for a family of four, you could think of the difference as a $10,696 of additional healthcare costs, just for a single year. And that figure gets bigger every year that our healthcare spending growth remains below average.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CPIMEDSL
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    this is a joke thread, right?

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    Yep ... the GOP attempts to sabotage it is working ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    this is a joke thread, right?

    It appears so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    It appears so.
    you know bourbon is especially nervous about a subject when he posts a giant cartoon with really big text, as if yelling really loud about something will make you sound smarter.
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    and the thread itself, she would like for everyone to just believe on faith that giving away free stuff is somehow saving someone money, someone besides the people getting free stuff that is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    But who saw the inflation and who didn't see it?
    If you have stats that would illuminate that, I'd be very interested in seeing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    this is a joke thread, right?

    No. I provided the link so you can confirm what I'm saying is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    It appears so.
    I find that right-wingers tend to react with unthinking incredulity, when the tropes they've been brainwashed into accepting crash up against verifiable real-world facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneuli View Post
    If you have stats that would illuminate that, I'd be very interested in seeing them.
    Why is it incumbent on me to provide them? You made the statement. I'm guessing a lot of poor people were subsidized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneuli View Post
    I find that right-wingers tend to react with unthinking incredulity, when the tropes they've been brainwashed into accepting crash up against verifiable real-world facts.
    You're talking about tropes? Thanks for the fish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    Why is it incumbent on me to provide them? You made the statement. I'm guessing a lot of poor people were subsidized.
    and that's the entire point, the obvious means nothing to liberals, in general.

    ANOTHER one of Obamas lies on Obamacare was that it would actually SAVE money. Absurd on it's face never mind the details.
    AND here we are almost a decade later, the numbers are out there, the facts are the facts, the courts have spoken, and yet there is still a liberal that would dare utter the words of this OP. It's absolutely mind boggling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneuli View Post
    Here's a way to think about the success of Obamacare in slowing healthcare inflation. It's been about eight years and eight months since Obamacare was signed into law. We can compute healthcare inflation for 660 eras of that length leading up to the passage of Obamacare. Among the 660 eras, the lowest healthcare inflation was 30%, the highest was 137%, the average was 64%, and the median was 53%.

    So, how has the last eight years and eight months looked in that context? Well, it turns out, healthcare inflation has been 26% -- significantly below the prior record-low for a period of that length. The savings from that low rate of healthcare cost growth is substantial. For example, we spend about $10,224 per capita on healthcare today. If, since Obamacare passed, healthcare costs had risen in accordance with an average rate of inflation rather than the record low rate we've had, it would be $12,898. So, for a family of four, you could think of the difference as a $10,696 of additional healthcare costs, just for a single year. And that figure gets bigger every year that our healthcare spending growth remains below average.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CPIMEDSL
    So the claim that Obamacare would reduce our healthcare costs was a lie. Thank you for proving that. In your link, it shows the costs rising dramatically since 1975 with no lowering trend in sight.

    Obama Promises To Lower Health Insurance Premiums by $2,500 Per Year
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneuli View Post
    No. I provided the link so you can confirm what I'm saying is correct.
    So the NEW liberal argument is this: Yes Obama was lying about reducing our costs. BUT, they didn't increase as much as they could have. Is that the laughably stupid goalpost movement?

    Obama lying about Premium Costs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneuli View Post
    No. I provided the link so you can confirm what I'm saying is correct.
    I read the article and saw the graph, you might want to revisit your link dummy.
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