The CBO estimates are a joke. Bush had nothing to do with the massive $1.4 trillion Obama and Democrats racked up in 2009 snowflake. Try to grow a brain. The pork laden recovery act cost the nation trillions showing NOTHING in return other than a massive accumulation in debt and the worst GDP growth of any modern presidency.
But hey, I get it. You're an idiot who thinks Obama was great and moronically attempt to argue using specious claims that the ACA is saving money when it isn't.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
Agreed. CBO estimates are a ruse to dupe the uninformed.
By statute, the CBO can only score what Congress gives them.
Congress knows how to front load taxes and backload expenses to make their bullshit look good
Anyone who believes a CBO estimate deserves to be fucked over
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I'll admit it's possible he was just horrendously, hilariously ignorant of even the most basic aspects of recent economic history, and thus his false claim was made innocently. It's possible it wasn't a deliberate falsehood. But, it was clearly false. And my point was to clear up that untruth. You're welcome.
The argument was only Obama and Bush doubled debt. If you don't see how the history of people like Reagan and FDR changes that argument.... well, try harder.How does it change the argument?
Actually, healthcare inflation calculations include all spending on healthcare, regardless of where the financing comes from. So, you're wrong. Obviously.does not include the massive subsidies American taxpayers are being forced to pay, as well as, much higher premiums.
It's speculative, but not dumb. Again, keep in mind we're not talking about growth rates that were just a bit below average, in which case an assumption that they would have been higher if not for the change is warranted, but is hardly a slam dunk. Instead, we're talking about growth rates that were BY A SIZABLE MARGIN, the lowest in all of history for a period of that length. Is it possible that they would have been just as low if not for the big change? Yes, I suppose it's possible. It's a bit like arguing that if the New England Patriots hadn't drafted Tom Brady, they'd have won just as many Super Bowls. It's possible. You can't disprove it. But since no QB has ever won as many Super Bowls as Brady, it sure doesn't look likely.You're attempts to statistically suggest that premiums MIGHT have been even higher are speculative and dumb
I posted the REAL GDP growth dumbass., You're the one attempting to argue that total growth for each decade is a meaningful statistic. It is actually laughably stupid. But that is what you do; engage in laughably stupid and meaningless claims using specious methodology to prop up a failed ideology built on lies.
Social Fascist Democrats are not good for any economy. Their ideology is built around victims and the idea that people are too stupid to make it without massive Government intrusions into their lives.
Democrats held the purse strings for four decades with nothing to show for it but deficits and wars. Here you stand like a moron declaring it was great. STFU seriously. You're an arrogant, pompous idiot. That's makes you the worst kind of fool.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
The only thing that changes is how desperately you flail at strawmen snowflake.
Actually, you're attempts to conflate them into savings for the American taxpayer are erroneous, stupid and laughable.
Another dumb analogy scarecrow; but what would you be without strawmen right?
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
Did someone argue it was? Go put the straw man back in your closet and try to focus. The point here was that the 80s did not have explosive economic growth, as asserted. Instead, they had the second-worst growth of any decade in the 20th century. And the question is whether realizing how wrong he was about that has caused him to reconsider any beliefs he drew from that misconception. My assumption is the answer is now, since he didn't actually draw any beliefs from the misconception, as he comes at the problem from the opposite direction: he adopts an unwavering article of faith and then blindly asserts the existence of evidence to support it.
Of course. But they're not the same thing, as much as the wingnuts here seem to imagine they are. Deficits and debt are related in approximately the same way as velocity and distance are related (or, for that matter, the way that acceleration and velocity are related). Yet people here keep quoting debt figures as if they were deficits.
How was 3.5% not explosive growth scarecrow? Apparently it is you grasping at straws.
That's a lie. How was 3.1% GDP second worst scarecrow? Here's the data again:
Average REAL GDP by decade.
1900's = 3.9%
1910's = 2.9%
1920's = 3.4%
1930's = 1.0%
1940's = 5.6%
1950's = 4.2%
1960's = 4.5%
1970's = 3.2%
1980's = 3.1%
1990's = 3.2%
2000's = 1.8%
2010's = 2.1%
OBAMA =1.48%
https://www.crestmontresearch.com/do...-By-Decade.pdf
You just described yourself you moron.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
Obamacare has saved the American people a great deal of money (see top post). However, it's true the GOP has tried to sabotage it, including by effectively eliminating the mandate. That sets it up for long-term failure or at least serious under-performance. But it doesn't change the fact it's been a significant improvement.
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