Facts that DEMOCRATS are unlikely to applaud

[MAGA MAN]

Nancy say's you guys ain't getting a wall! When are you tards going to start listening to Nancy?

You go Nancy!

OK, Nancy-boy.

[Nordberg]

Hilarious, you blaming Trump for the latest boondoggle farm bill.

Hilariously blaming Trump for the Tariffs which caused American farmers to lose much of their market. Now you can laugh at Trump throwing a few billion at farmers to keep them from financial death. You think that is funny too? You are utterly uninformed.

[Nordberg]

US - Mexico annual trade: $557 billion with a $71 billion deficit (source). Currently Trump is axing Congress for $5 billion, which is 7% of the deficit. Cutting the deficit will pay for the wall.

Why is this so difficult for liberals to understand?

7 percent of a deficit is a negative number. Difficult? it is ridiculous.

[Adolf_Twitler]

OK, Nancy-boy.

I hate it when the Cowboys release and trade some of our better players. They always come back to haunt us!

Same thing goes for Nancy! I would much rather have this darling on our side, rather than face her as competition!

[MAGA MAN]

7 percent of a deficit is a negative number. Difficult? it is ridiculous.

Reduce the deficit and the wall will pay for itself. It's so simple, no wonder that you can't understand it.

[MAGA MAN]

I hate it when the Cowboys release and trade some of our better players. They always come back to haunt us!

Same thing goes for Nancy! I would much rather have this darling on our side, rather than face her as competition!

OK Nancy-boy.

[archives]

US - Mexico annual trade: $557 billion with a $71 billion deficit (source). Currently Trump is axing Congress for $5 billion, which is 7% of the deficit. Cutting the deficit will pay for the wall.

Why is this so difficult for liberals to understand?

Two things, the new NAFTA, which is almost the identical to the old NAFTA, isn't going to change that a whole hell'va a lot, but even if it did, did you actually think the seventy one billion is collected by the Federal Gov't to reallocate toward a Wall? Or pay back the monies spent to build a Wall?

[Legion]

The new NAFTA is almost the identical to the old NAFTA.

Even DEMOCRAT-infested ultra-liberal WaPo says different, anchovies.

President Trump got his wish for a significantly revised North American trade deal. After more than a year of intense negotiations, the United States, Canada and Mexico reached an agreement to update the North American Free Trade Agreement, the 1994 pact that governs more than $1.2 trillion worth of trade among the three nations.

Most of the key provisions don’t start until 2020 because leaders from the three countries have to sign it and then Congress and the legislatures in Canada and Mexico have to approve it, a process that is expected to take months.

Here’s a rundown:

• New name. Goodbye NAFTA. The new deal will be known as the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement, or USMCA.
• The goal of the new deal is to have more cars and truck parts made in North America. Starting in 2020, to qualify for zero tariffs, a car or truck must have 75 percent of its components manufactured in Canada, Mexico or the United States, a substantial boost from the current 62.5 percent requirement.
• There’s also a new rule that a significant percentage of the work done on the car must be completed by workers earning at least $16 an hour, or about three times what the typical Mexican autoworker makes. Starting in 2020, cars and trucks should have at least 30 percent of the work on the vehicle done by workers earning $16 an hour. That gradually moves up to 40 percent for cars by 2023.
• Canada is giving greater market share to U.S. dairy farmers. U.S. negotiators got a major victory by forcing Canada to eliminate the pricing scheme for what are known as Class 7 dairy products. That means U.S. dairy farmers can probably send a lot more milk protein concentrate, skim milk powder and infant formula to Canada (and those products are relatively easy to transport and store).
• Trump’s steel tariffs stay in place.
• The USMCA makes a number of significant upgrades to environmental and labor regulations, especially regarding Mexico. For example, the USMCA stipulates that Mexican trucks that cross the border into the United States must meet higher safety regulations and that Mexican workers must have more ability to organize and form unions. The Trump administration is committed to ensuring these happen — a reason U.S. labor unions are cheering the new rules.
• Increased intellectual property protections. The new IP chapter is 63 pages and contains more-stringent protections for patents and trademarks, including for biotech, financial services and even domain names. Many business leaders and legal experts believed these updates were necessary given that the original agreement was negotiated 25 years ago.
• U.S. drug companies will now be able to sell pharmaceuticals in Canada for 10 years before facing generic competition. That’s up from eight years of market protection now.
• The USMCA stipulates that the three nations will review the agreement after six years. If all parties agree, then the deal will continue for the full 16 year period (with the ability to renew after that for another 16 years).
• Chapter 11 is eliminated entirely for Canada and mostly for Mexico, except for some key industries such as energy and telecommunications. Chapter 11 gave companies and investors a special process to resolve disputes with one of the governments in NAFTA. The idea was that if investors put a lot of money into a project and then the government changed the rules, there was a clear dispute process — outside the court system — where investors could get their problem resolved. Critics argue that Chapter 11 was mainly used as a way for big corporations to get taxpayer money, but businesses say it was necessary to ensure they weren’t harmed by sudden changes when new governments came into power in Mexico, Canada or the United States. In the end, Chapter 11 is mostly gone, except for a few key industries, such as oil, that lobbied hard to be able to challenge the Mexican government if it changes the rules and tries to nationalize its energy sector again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/10/01/us-canada-mexico-just-reached-sweeping-new-nafta-deal-heres-whats-it/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.346b66432241

[MAGA MAN]

Two things, the new NAFTA, which is almost the identical to the old NAFTA, isn't going to change that a whole hell'va a lot, but even if it did, did you actually think the seventy one billion is collected by the Federal Gov't to reallocate toward a Wall? Or pay back the monies spent to build a Wall?

A large portion of the lost business is also lost revenue to the government.

[archives]

Even DEMOCRAT-infested ultra-liberal WaPo says different, anchovies.

President Trump got his wish for a significantly revised North American trade deal. After more than a year of intense negotiations, the United States, Canada and Mexico reached an agreement to update the North American Free Trade Agreement, the 1994 pact that governs more than $1.2 trillion worth of trade among the three nations.

Most of the key provisions don’t start until 2020 because leaders from the three countries have to sign it and then Congress and the legislatures in Canada and Mexico have to approve it, a process that is expected to take months.

Here’s a rundown:

• New name. Goodbye NAFTA. The new deal will be known as the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement, or USMCA.
• The goal of the new deal is to have more cars and truck parts made in North America. Starting in 2020, to qualify for zero tariffs, a car or truck must have 75 percent of its components manufactured in Canada, Mexico or the United States, a substantial boost from the current 62.5 percent requirement.
• There’s also a new rule that a significant percentage of the work done on the car must be completed by workers earning at least $16 an hour, or about three times what the typical Mexican autoworker makes. Starting in 2020, cars and trucks should have at least 30 percent of the work on the vehicle done by workers earning $16 an hour. That gradually moves up to 40 percent for cars by 2023.
• Canada is giving greater market share to U.S. dairy farmers. U.S. negotiators got a major victory by forcing Canada to eliminate the pricing scheme for what are known as Class 7 dairy products. That means U.S. dairy farmers can probably send a lot more milk protein concentrate, skim milk powder and infant formula to Canada (and those products are relatively easy to transport and store).
• Trump’s steel tariffs stay in place.
• The USMCA makes a number of significant upgrades to environmental and labor regulations, especially regarding Mexico. For example, the USMCA stipulates that Mexican trucks that cross the border into the United States must meet higher safety regulations and that Mexican workers must have more ability to organize and form unions. The Trump administration is committed to ensuring these happen — a reason U.S. labor unions are cheering the new rules.
• Increased intellectual property protections. The new IP chapter is 63 pages and contains more-stringent protections for patents and trademarks, including for biotech, financial services and even domain names. Many business leaders and legal experts believed these updates were necessary given that the original agreement was negotiated 25 years ago.
• U.S. drug companies will now be able to sell pharmaceuticals in Canada for 10 years before facing generic competition. That’s up from eight years of market protection now.
• The USMCA stipulates that the three nations will review the agreement after six years. If all parties agree, then the deal will continue for the full 16 year period (with the ability to renew after that for another 16 years).
• Chapter 11 is eliminated entirely for Canada and mostly for Mexico, except for some key industries such as energy and telecommunications. Chapter 11 gave companies and investors a special process to resolve disputes with one of the governments in NAFTA. The idea was that if investors put a lot of money into a project and then the government changed the rules, there was a clear dispute process — outside the court system — where investors could get their problem resolved. Critics argue that Chapter 11 was mainly used as a way for big corporations to get taxpayer money, but businesses say it was necessary to ensure they weren’t harmed by sudden changes when new governments came into power in Mexico, Canada or the United States. In the end, Chapter 11 is mostly gone, except for a few key industries, such as oil, that lobbied hard to be able to challenge the Mexican government if it changes the rules and tries to nationalize its energy sector again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/10/01/us-canada-mexico-just-reached-sweeping-new-nafta-deal-heres-whats-it/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.346b66432241

That doesn't compare the two, nor verify the point you thought you got, rather, just highlights the alterations

"Overall, the changes from the old NAFTA are mostly cosmetic. After a year and a half of negotiations, the three parties are going to end up with a new trade deal that looks remarkably similar to the old NAFTA. The main structure of the deal is largely intact; the biggest changes include higher rules-of-origin requirements for the auto sector, marginally greater U.S. access to the Canadian dairy market, and a scale-back of the investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS) rules. Thus we shouldn’t expect to see any dramatic economic effects from this deal—though if it convinces businesses’ that U.S. withdrawal from NAFTA is no longer on the table, resolving this uncertainty may lead to a small increase in investment."
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-fr...the-new-nafta/

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A large portion of the lost business is also lost revenue to the government.

Which hardly means that revenue is automatically allocated to the Wall for payment or reimbursement

[Legion]

Overall, the changes from the old NAFTA are mostly cosmetic.

So they say.

Others have a different view, anchovies.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-nafta-vs-usmca/

[floridafan]

So they say.

Others have a different view, anchovies.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-nafta-vs-usmca/

You really need to read what your handlers post for you. if you did, you would see the difference between NAFTA and the new agreement are small. But of course trump pretends we will save enough money to fund the wall 4X over, and you defend that crap even though you know its BS. I do understand my dear, everyone needs a paycheck.

[Legion]

The difference between NAFTA and the new agreement are small. But of course trump pretends we will save enough money to fund the wall 4X over, and you defend that crap even though you know its BS. I do understand my dear, everyone needs a paycheck.

Is that so, cum gargler? Tell the forum what you do to earn a paycheck. I'll understand if you can't.

[Nordberg]

Reduce the deficit and the wall will pay for itself. It's so simple, no wonder that you can't understand it.

Because Trump added to it. So simple you cannot fathom it. Trump and his policies jacked the deficit. So a portion of a negative is still a negative. Who feeds you?