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Thread: WOW!! Federal judge in TX declares obamacare UNCONSTITUTIONAL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    I am grandfathered in. I don't actually contribute to a HSA though anymore. You are not technically required to even have the account. You just can if you want. I prefer to keep the money in my own control. I funded one year when I first set up up as an emergency account but don't make yearly contributions (much to my CPA's disdain).
    You still have full control over your money, you just use pre tax dollars.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by distraff View Post
    Yeah, but the Nurse labor is a separate charge. The insurers may not pay that, but they pay an outrageous sum and hospitals typically try to charge 3 1/2 times the cost of care.
    Typically the insurer pays less than half of what's billed.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by distraff View Post
    But if we don't have those protections, you can get sick when not on insurance (e.g. unemployed, poor), or sick on a bad insurance and basically be screwed. We need a system that gets everyone insured or protects people with pre-existing conditions. I think the former makes a lot of sense. Lets just never even be in the situation when people become uninsured.
    Uranidiot. It would be best if health insurance was banned.
    Reckless drivers are a bigger threat to you than all other criminals put together!

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    There is no way 81 million americans voted for a man they know is a child molester w dementia. Impeach Joe the Pedophile Vegetable (JPV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvilleherb View Post
    This is a huge victory for the Republican politicians who have worked so hard to end ObamaCare.

    everyday your should get stupider and stupider you're at the bottom of the stupid ladder today

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    everyday your should get stupider and stupider you're at the bottom of the stupid ladder today
    HAHAHA. Another brilliant "rebuttal" from the left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    I was talking about politicians who saw the cost of our terrible healthcare system was bankrupting the country and the people. Hell, nearly half the voters were convinced to vote for Trump. But politicians and economists have been portending the disaster that our healthcare system creating. It is here.Obama tried to fix it. If you are old enough, you would be aware that presidentail candidates have been alarmed about out disastrous sytem for many decades. Olny Obama tried to address it.
    Make that poll a world wide one and you would see our system is laughed at across the globe. And really not that esteemed here. https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterub.../#521e878694fe
    Yes, politicians have been worried about our "terrible system" (which more than 80% of Americans were happy with) for decades, because Democrats started illegally taking it over a long time before that. And yes, Obama tried to "fix" it by shredding the Constitution to take it over and destroy it, so nothing else would exist but government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    True to a point, and also worth noting is that many employers are to blame. The vast majority of people in this nation know very little about the cost of health insurance. When ACA was passed, a vast number of employers simply passed more of the insurance costs onto the employees, and blamed ACA.

    It was a lie, but they took the opportunity to cut their expenses.
    Every time it's something else. Overtime pay issues, they just cut all employees down to part time. In fact the stuff you're talking about, was some of the excuses many companies barked, when this stuff was put on the table. Cut staff, cut hours, cut wages, etc.

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    The American conservative mantra:

    I've got mine...fuck you.


    American conservatives are barbarians. Humanity would be better off without disgusting people like them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    The American conservative mantra:

    I've got mine...fuck you.
    Selfish greed is more like illegally bankrupting, impoverishing, and enslaving everyone but the ultra-wealthy to show everyone how "enlightened" and "generous" you are with other people's money.



    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    American conservatives are barbarians. Humanity would be better off without disgusting people like them.
    As usual, pot meet kettle.


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    [QUOTE=Arminius;2771587]Selfish greed is more like illegally bankrupting, impoverishing, and enslaving everyone but the ultra-wealthy to show everyone how "enlightened" and "generous" you are with other people's money.

    What the hell is that supposed to mean?

    What the hell is that supposed to mean?

    As usual, pot meet kettle.
    What the hell is that supposed to mean?




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    What the hell is all that supposed to mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
    Yes, politicians have been worried about our "terrible system" (which more than 80% of Americans were happy with) for decades, because Democrats started illegally taking it over a long time before that. And yes, Obama tried to "fix" it by shredding the Constitution to take it over and destroy it, so nothing else would exist but government.
    Yup - obama told us everything good in the world comes from govt while most americans know just the opposite. Govt can't do anything right.
    Reckless drivers are a bigger threat to you than all other criminals put together!

    THE BIG LIE - Blacks and whites are different physically but identical mentally!

    There is no way 81 million americans voted for a man they know is a child molester w dementia. Impeach Joe the Pedophile Vegetable (JPV)

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    non event, ruling won't stand appeal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    Uranidiot. It would be best if health insurance was banned.
    If we banned health insurance, then the only option is a universal healthcare system. Else, most people are an accident away from bankrupcy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    Uranidiot. It would be best if health insurance was banned.
    For profit insurance? Absolutely, civilized 21st century nations are already there. We actually used to be, but we gave that back to the aristocracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by distraff View Post
    If we banned health insurance, then the only option is a universal healthcare system. Else, most people are an accident away from bankrupcy.
    Already are WITH insurance, happens all the time in america.

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