WOW!! Federal judge in TX declares obamacare UNCONSTITUTIONAL

[Adolf_Twitler]

do you realize who authorized the change in regulations that permitted the federal government to guarantee the repayment of high risk mortgages?.......it wasn't someone working for the Bush administration.......its sad you still don't know this stuff......

I never said that regulations was something tied to the Bush Administration.

If you want a pretty good summary of the Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae history from boon to bust, and it certainly was not the fault of the lending programs themselves as you will clearly see. Go Here.......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fannie_Mae#2015_ruling

[Fentoine Lum]

Obamacare is undoubtedly the major reason why America has descended to the level of a psychopath for president. It is the major reason why racism has begun to rise toward matching 60's standards.

And really, there's no way out of it now. The big insurance corps are low enough to promote the initiative to destroy any and all moves toward Univeral health care in America because it spells the end of their huge profits they make off the backs of the people. And racism is the most positive way of promoting their agenda!

As long as racism is alive and well in half of Americans at least, the solution to America's health care problem can be equated to succumbing to the black people's needs and wishes.

And so the battle goes on, especially in places like Texas, where the American people are so wrapped up in their racism and hate that they will cut their noses off to spite their faces. No ACA! Regardless of the fact that the current for profit system is bankrupting their relatives, friends, themselves, and ordinary poor people just like them!

Can ordinary Americans ever rise above their racist hating and do what they need to do to help themselves?

I, as a Canadian, am willing to help people learn the truths about how universal health care works for all the people, costs a fraction of the amount Americans are paying, and can bring better quality health care for ALL the people!

It is also a Heritage Foundation conceived plan; the dangerous Muslim half black terrorist fist bumping president gave the republican white nationalists their own plan, and still they lost their shit. On the other hand, a majority of the american public supports single payer. Are you too hung up on this illusion that america has a representative democratic form of govt that reflects the will of a majority of the people? This just is not so, but the american public remains largely collectively planted in docility on their couches, so I can see how the rest of the world might come to the conclusion that the american public is either down with it as the kids say and the power structure would like to convey, or perhaps they're so utterly subjugated as to be numbingly complicit as they blame the "other side" for emotional release.

Yes, we could have single payer with better outcomes for less expense and inefficiencies like every other advanced post-industrial nation on the planet, but "both" political parties are fighting against it and are funded by lobbyists to so such, have been for decades, see Democrat Dick Gephardt; set up a lobbying firm to fight single payer less than a month after he left "public life". And if we can withstand the Pentagon squandering spending they cannot account for between 1998-2015 to the tune of $21T, the notion that america cannot pay for single payer is bullshit; we, or rather our so called "leaders", just choose to occupy the planet militarily with endless multiple generational wars for the enrichment of the Wall Street/donor/Job creator class instead.

Then there's the business of pitting the masses against one another and invoking that "competition" component of capitalism which taught us all to compete with each other so as to never conceive of the notion of joining together against a common oppressor. We demonize our poor and working poor and insure that their ranks are swollen with the down sliding middle class while worshipping the hoarding of redistributed societal wealth in america because the very presence of growing poverty and being the world's premier incarceration nation reminds us all of the outright lie of american capitalism, and such a fragile house of cards cannot withstand much scrutiny.

Watch how the corporatist dems run from single payer once in power.

[distraff]

I used to be angry about that, until I started dating a nurse. At $45/hour, if a nurse spends 15 minutes with a patient, that's more than $10 in labor...if she isn't getting paid overtime.

Then you have to pay the staff to mop the floor. Then you have utilities, etc.

Don't get me wrong. I don't advocate for $20 aspirin. (of course, the insurers never pay that). I just understand it.

Yeah, but the Nurse labor is a separate charge. The insurers may not pay that, but they pay an outrageous sum and hospitals typically try to charge 3 1/2 times the cost of care.

[Nordberg]

It is also a Heritage Foundation conceived plan; the dangerous Muslim half black terrorist fist bumping president gave the republican white nationalists their own plan. On the other hand, a majority of the american public supports single payer. Are you too hung up on this illusion that america has a representative democratic form of govt that reflects the will of a majority of the people? This just is not so.

Yes, we could have single payer with better outcomes for less expense and inefficiencies like every other advanced post-industrial nation on the planet, but "both" political parties are fighting against it and are funded by lobbyists to; have been for decades, see Democrat Dick Gephardt, set up a lobbying firm to fight single payer less than a month after he left "public life". And if we can withstand the Pentagon squandering spending they cannot account for between 1998-2015 to the tune of $21T, the nothing that america cannot pay for single payer is bullshit; we, or rather our so called "leaders", just choose to occupy the planet militarily with endless multiple generational wars for the enrichment of the Wall Street/donor/Job creator class.

Then there's the business of pitting the masses against one another and invoking that "competition" component of capitalism which taught us all to compete with each other so as to never conceive of the notion of joining together against a common oppressor. We demonize our poer and working poor while worshipping the hording of wealth in america because their very presence reminds us all of the outright lie of american capitalism and such a fragile house of cards cannot withstand much scrutiny.

Some Dems are for single payer . I know of no Reds who are for that. If we do get a single payer system that releases us from the bondage of healthcare companies, it will come out of the Democratic party. They are not the same. Sanders and many other Dems are pushing Medicare for all, while the Repubs have it on their chopping blocks. Just not the same.

[montgomery]

It is also a Heritage Foundation conceived plan; the dangerous Muslim half black terrorist fist bumping president gave the republican white nationalists their own plan. On the other hand, a majority of the american public supports single payer. Are you too hung up on this illusion that america has a representative democratic form of govt that reflects the will of a majority of the people? This just is not so.

Yes, we could have single payer with better outcomes for less expense and inefficiencies like every other advanced post-industrial nation on the planet, but "both" political parties are fighting against it and are funded by lobbyists to, have been for decades, see Democrat Dick Gephardt; set up a lobbying firm to fight single payer less than a month after he left "public life". And if we can withstand the Pentagon squandering spending they cannot account for between 1998-2015 to the tune of $21T, the notion that america cannot pay for single payer is bullshit; we, or rather our so called "leaders", just choose to occupy the planet militarily with endless multiple generational wars for the enrichment of the Wall Street/donor/Job creator class instead.

Then there's the business of pitting the masses against one another and invoking that "competition" component of capitalism which taught us all to compete with each other so as to never conceive of the notion of joining together against a common oppressor. We demonize our poer and working poor while worshipping the hording of wealth in america because their very presence reminds us all of the outright lie of american capitalism and such a fragile house of cards cannot withstand much scrutiny.

You're not informing me of something I do't already know. I'll just add, the black president obviously didn't represent the corrupt Democratic party.

For the next little while any expanding of a conversation between us will have to be left up to you. I hope we can work things out.

[Nordberg]

Provably false.

As Obama Pushes National Health Care, Most Americans Already Happy With Coverage

"A survey conducted jointly by the Kaiser Family Foundation, ABC News and USA Today, released in October 2006, found that 89 percent of Americans were satisfied with their own personal medical care."



And yes, ever since Democrats started illegally tampering with the system, it has gotten increasingly expensive, complicated, and dysfunctional...as with what happens with everything government takes over. But even with that, almost the entire country was happy with the existing system before Democrats spent more than a trillion dollars illegally taking it over and destroying it under Obama.





Except for those who pay attention to history and what all the evidence (and the text of the bill itself) indicates. It was designed to fail and leave nothing standing but government.



Obamacare Was Designed to Explode -- Dems Want Single-Payer

OBAMACARE ARCHITECT: ACA DESIGNED TO IMPLODE, DESTROY INSURANCE COMPANIES

Social Welfare On The Cheap: Why Obamacare Was Built To Fail

What conservatives see when the unwise insist that total nanny state control won't end in catastrophe this time...

I was talking about politicians who saw the cost of our terrible healthcare system was bankrupting the country and the people. Hell, nearly half the voters were convinced to vote for Trump. But politicians and economists have been portending the disaster that our healthcare system creating. It is here.Obama tried to fix it. If you are old enough, you would be aware that presidentail candidates have been alarmed about out disastrous sytem for many decades. Olny Obama tried to address it.
Make that poll a world wide one and you would see our system is laughed at across the globe. And really not that esteemed here. https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterub.../#521e878694fe

[Crazy Cat Lady]

It was unconstitutional when written since setting up a national health care system is NOT one of the listed powers of congress, though that's not the argument this judge is using.

How nice to hear that you are rejoicing as millions of your fellow Americans lose access to health care.

[Fentoine Lum]

Some Dems are for single payer . I know of no Reds who are for that. If we do get a single payer system that releases us from the bondage of healthcare companies, it will come out of the Democratic party. They are not the same. Sanders and many other Dems are pushing Medicare for all, while the Repubs have it on their chopping blocks. Just not the same.

OK, watch, we'll see. Did you notice how quickly Corey Booker got down to FL to "endorse" Gillum? And Gillum never mentioned single player again. "Both" parties are funded by the same Wall Street/donor/"job creator" class.

[Fentoine Lum]

You're not informing me of something I do't already know. I'll just add, the black president obviously didn't represent the corrupt Democratic party.

For the next little while any expanding of a conversation between us will have to be left up to you. I hope we can work things out.

I'm fine with leaving things where they are, I live here under this system and you do not, nor can you sway anything here. Your conversation can collapse, it matters not at all. Obama also took Bush's 2 wars to 7, he also caged migrant children and bailed out Wall Street with socialism. The notion that Obama did not carry the pail for the political class is folly. We here are quite steeped in the lesser-of-two-evils charade, we still wind up with evil, same as it ever was. You just sit up there and watch how long it takes and how we get to single payer. The insurance and pharma industries will be right there at the table making sure they get theirs, just like they did with "Obamacare". Same as it ever was so along as all the american public is willing to do is sit tight and whine.

[montgomery]

I'm fine with leaving things where they are, I live here under this system. Your conversation can collapse, it matters not at all. Obama also took Bush's 2 wars to 7, he also caged migrant children and bailed out Wall Street with socialism. The notion that Obama did not carry the pail for the political class is folly. We here are quite steeped in the lesser-of-two-evils charade, we still wind up with evil.

On second thought, I think I'll just write you off completely. You've really started to fall well below my expectations.

[canceled.2021.1]

Don’t worry lefties. The same fuckers who wrongly saved Obummercare will do so again when it gets to them.

Dickweed Roberts has to in order to save face for his previous shitty ruling

But I am not worried. Obummercare will collapse on its own faulty weight

[Fentoine Lum]

On second thought, I think I'll just write you off completely. You've really started to fall well below my expectations.

Gee, guess I should have followed you over to APP, and I so wanted to please you. But you adore the silent treatment anyway, so you're welcome.

[Fentoine Lum]

Don’t worry lefties. The same fuckers who wrongly saved Obummercare will do so again when it gets to them.

Dickweed Roberts has to in order to save face for his previous shitty ruling

But I am not worried. Obummercare will collapse on its own faulty weight

The Heritage Foundation concept will collapse? How weird.

[canceled.2021.1]

The Heritage Foundation concept will collapse? How weird.

Government run healthcare will always collapse

That’s a fact jack

[Fentoine Lum]

Government run healthcare will always collapse

That’s a fact jack

Only in america son, amongst advanced post-industrial nations, america comes in dead last both pre/post "Obamacare"; exceptional nation indeed.

New York, N.Y., October 8, 2015 — The U.S. spent more per person on health care than 12 other high-income nations in 2013, while seeing the lowest life expectancy and some of the worst health outcomes among this group, according to a Commonwealth Fund report out today. The analysis shows that in the U.S., which spent an average of $9,086 per person annually, life expectancy was 78.8 years. Switzerland, the second-highest-spending country, spent $6,325 per person and had a life expectancy of 82.9 years. Mortality rates for cancer were among the lowest in the U.S., but rates of chronic conditions, obesity, and infant mortality were higher than those abroad.
“Time and again, we see evidence that the amount of money we spend on health care in this country is not gaining us comparable health benefits,” said Commonwealth Fund President David Blumenthal, M.D. “We have to look at the root causes of this disconnect and invest our health care dollars in ways that will allow us to live longer while enjoying better health and greater productivity.”
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publ...-other-nations

U.S. Healthcare Ranked Dead Last Compared To 10 Other Countries
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danmunr.../#486bbd6f576f

Major Findings
• Quality: The indicators of quality were grouped into four categories: effective care, safe care, coordinated care, and patient-centered care. Compared with the other 10 countries, the U.S. fares best on provision and receipt of preventive and patient-centered care. While there has been some improvement in recent years, lower scores on safe and coordinated care pull the overall U.S. quality score down. Continued adoption of health information technology should enhance the ability of U.S. physicians to identify, monitor, and coordinate care for their patients, particularly those with chronic conditions.
• Access: Not surprisingly—given the absence of universal coverage—people in the U.S. go without needed health care because of cost more often than people do in the other countries. Americans were the most likely to say they had access problems related to cost. Patients in the U.S. have rapid access to specialized health care services; however, they are less likely to report rapid access to primary care than people in leading countries in the study. In other countries, like Canada, patients have little to no financial burden, but experience wait times for such specialized services. There is a frequent misperception that trade-offs between universal coverage and timely access to specialized services are inevitable; however, the Netherlands, U.K., and Germany provide universal coverage with low out-of-pocket costs while maintaining quick access to specialty services.
• Efficiency: On indicators of efficiency, the U.S. ranks last among the 11 countries, with the U.K. and Sweden ranking first and second, respectively. The U.S. has poor performance on measures of national health expenditures and administrative costs as well as on measures of administrative hassles, avoidable emergency room use, and duplicative medical testing. Sicker survey respondents in the U.K. and France are less likely to visit the emergency room for a condition that could have been treated by a regular doctor, had one been available.
• Equity: The U.S. ranks a clear last on measures of equity. Americans with below-average incomes were much more likely than their counterparts in other countries to report not visiting a physician when sick; not getting a recommended test, treatment, or follow-up care; or not filling a prescription or skipping doses when needed because of costs. On each of these indicators, one-third or more lower-income adults in the U.S. said they went without needed care because of costs in the past year.
• Healthy lives: The U.S. ranks last overall with poor scores on all three indicators of healthy lives—mortality amenable to medical care, infant mortality, and healthy life expectancy at age 60. The U.S. and U.K. had much higher death rates in 2007 from conditions amenable to medical care than some of the other countries, e.g., rates 25 percent to 50 percent higher than Australia and Sweden. Overall, France, Sweden, and Switzerland rank highest on healthy lives.
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publ.../mirror-mirror

No other advanced country even comes close to the United States in annual spending on health care, but plenty of those other countries see much better outcomes in their citizens' actual health overall.

A new Commonwealth Fund report released Thursday underscored that point — yet again — with an analysis that ranks 13 high-income nations on their overall health spending, use of medical services, prices and health outcomes.
The study data, which is from 2013, predates the full implementation of Obamacare, which took place in 2014. Obamacare is designed to increase health coverage for Americans and stem the rise in health-care costs.

The findings indicate that despite spending well in excess of the rate of any other of those countries in 2013, the United States achieved worse outcomes when it comes to rates of chronic conditions, obesity and infant mortality.
One rare bright spot for the U.S., however, is that its mortality rate for cancer is among the lowest out of the 13 countries, and that cancer rates fell faster between 1995 and 2007 than in other countries.

"Time and again, we see evidence that the amount of money we spend on health care in this country is not gaining us comparable health benefits," said Dr. David Blumenthal, president of the Commonwealth Fund. "We have to look at the root causes of this disconnect and invest our health-care dollars in ways that will allow us to live longer while enjoying better health and greater productivity."
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/08/us-he...t-so-good.html

Ranking 37th — Measuring the Performance of the U.S. Health Care System
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056...0064#t=article

Health Care Outcomes in States Influenced by Coverage, Disparities
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...ge-disparities

One explanation for the health disadvantage of the United States relative to other high-income countries might be deficiencies in health services. Although the United States is renowned for its leadership in biomedical research, its cutting-edge medical technology, and its hospitals and specialists, problems with ensuring Americans’ access to the system and providing quality care have been a long-standing concern of policy makers and the public (Berwick et al., 2008; Brook, 2011b; Fineberg, 2012). Higher mortality rates from diseases, and even from transportation-related injuries and homicides, may be traceable in part to failings in the health care system.

The United States stands out from many other countries in not offering universal health insurance coverage. In 2010, 50 million people (16 percent of the U.S. population) were uninsured (DeNavas-Walt et al., 2011). Access to health care services, particularly in rural and frontier communities or disadvantaged urban centers, is often limited. The United States has a relatively weak foundation for primary care and a shortage of family physicians (American Academy of Family Physicians, 2009; Grumbach et al., 2009; Macinko et al., 2007; Sandy et al., 2009). Many Americans rely on emergency departments for acute, chronic, and even preventive care (Institute of Medicine, 2007a; Schoen et al., 2009b, 2011). Cost sharing is common in the United States, and high out-of-pocket expenses make health care services, pharmaceuticals, and medical supplies increasingly unaffordable (Commonwealth Fund Commission on a High Performance System, 2011; Karaca-Mandic et al., 2012). In 2011, one-third of American households reported problems paying medical bills (Cohen et al., 2012), a problem that seems to have worsened in recent years (Himmelstein et al., 2009). Health insurance premiums are consuming an increasing proportion of U.S. household income (Commonwealth Fund Commission on a High Performance System, 2011).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK154484/

Once again, U.S. has most expensive, least effective health care system in survey
A report released Monday by a respected think tank ranks the United States dead last in the quality of its health-care system when compared with 10 other western, industrialized nations, the same spot it occupied in four previous studies by the same organization. Not only did the U.S. fail to move up between 2004 and 2014 -- as other nations did with concerted effort and significant reforms -- it also has maintained this dubious distinction while spending far more per capita ($8,508) on health care than Norway ($5,669), which has the second most expensive system.
"Although the U.S. spends more on health care than any other country and has the highest proportion of specialist physicians, survey findings indicate that from the patients’ perspective, and based on outcome indicators, the performance of American health care is severely lacking," the Commonwealth Fund, a New York-based foundation that promotes improved health care, concluded in its extensive analysis. The charts in this post are from the report.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.3bea55276072

US healthcare system ranks 50th out of 55 countries for efficiency
http://www.beckershospitalreview.com...fficiency.html

The U.S. healthcare system notched another dubious honor in a new comparison of its quality to the systems of 10 other developed countries: its rank was dead last.
The new study by the Commonwealth Fund ranks the U.S. against seven wealthy European countries and Canada, Australia and New Zealand. It's a follow-up of previous surveys published in 2010, 2007, 2006 and 2004, in all of which the U.S. also ranked last.
Although the U.S. ranked in the middle of the pack on measures of effectiveness, safety and coordination of care, it ranked dead last on access and cost, by a sufficient margin to rank dead last overall. The breakdowns are in the chart above.
Conservative pundits hastened to explain away these results after the report was published. See Aaron Carroll for a gloss on the "zombie arguments" put forth against the clear evidence that the U.S. system falls short.
http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...17-column.html

U.S. Health Care Ranked Worst in the Developed World
http://time.com/2888403/u-s-health-c...veloped-world/