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Trump has put, in many cases, the WORST possible choice for people to be in charge of things.
What does 'Drain The Swamp' mean? I took that to mean that Trump was going to clean up corruption in our government. To me, Corruption is the old Pay-Off. Big money goes into our government, figures out who to grease, and gets things done their way so they can get even richer. Right? That's corruption. That's the dirt, the muck. That's what we call 'The Swamp,' and that's what we are tired of, Right? So when we talk of draining the swamp, we want to have a clean government without this kind of corruption. I figured draining the swamp was a GREAT idea. Get rid of corruption.
So it's hard to understand why all these people who agreed with Trump that we need to Drain The Swamp are not angry with him for not doing that. He has made government corruption worse. So many of these government agencies are now doing the OPPOSITE of what they were supposed to do!
Education? The Secretary wants to kill public education and turn it into another for-profit business that primarily serves the rich and fails the poor.
Environment? You might as well change it to the Destruction of the Environment Department. Call it DED. And Dead is what everything is going to be if they had their way for long enough.
Or maybe it should just be called the Energy Industry Protection Agency. That's about exactly what they do now.
Consumer Fraud Protection Bureau? Give us a break! Why do we have these agencies which do the exact opposite of what their name says they are? They took a fantastically wonderful operation created under Obama, the CFPB which, under Obama, forced greedy corporations to return $12 billion fraudulently ripped off dollars to more than 29 million Americans and THEY GUTTED it.
PoliTalker anti-troll thread thief disclaimer:President Donald Trump and the regulators he appointed are taking a far less aggressive approach to consumer protection than their predecessors, delaying key regulations and imposing fewer penalties against financial institutions and other corporations accused of wrongdoing, according to a Washington Post review of available data and interviews with consumer advocates and government officials.
At the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, for example, enforcement actions have dropped from an average of three-to-five each month during the past four years down to zero since a Trump appointee took charge of the agency in late November.Chicago TribuneIf this thread is stolen, plagiarized, will the thief have the nerve to use the entire OP, word for word? Including this disclaimer?
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What ever happened to that SWAMPY DRAINY THING, anyway? Hunh?
Ya don't hear that too much any more. Why isn't Trump yelling DRAIN THE SWAMP at his rallies any more? Hunh?
Go figure.
He IS the swamp. And we need to drain our government of HIM.
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Bourbon (12-14-2018), christiefan915 (12-15-2018), evince (12-14-2018), Guno צְבִי (12-14-2018), stoned (12-15-2018), Troll (12-14-2018)
They meant 'drain the swamp of anything even remotely liberal, anything beneficial to the poor and sick and old and laws we don't like'.
evince (12-14-2018), Guno צְבִי (12-14-2018), iolo (12-15-2018), PoliTalker (12-14-2018), stoned (12-15-2018)
I guess you need nastier critters to run them out
Or maybe the plan is for them to kill each other
Maybe that is whats taking place
send in some contaminated creatures
they join with the swamp creatures and while they are busy contaminating each other we sick the justice system in to drain the water
lots of flopping creatures merely slowly die
Guno צְבִי (12-14-2018)
Donny is just the biggest nastier creature
he so loved us he sacrificed himself to save us
What a hero
there you go trumpanzies
you can love trumpy and still be happy all the evil republicans and trumpies have gone down
Guno צְבִי (12-14-2018)
Does Trump figure the way to end corruption is to ramp it up and make it so blatant that it gets everyone's attention and then they take definitive action against it?
Last edited by PoliTalker; 12-14-2018 at 01:00 PM. Reason: made 'definitive take' 'take definitive'
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The first two congressmen to endorse Trump in February, 2016 - Chris Collins (R-N.Y.) and Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.) - are now awaiting trial for, respectively, securities fraud and misuse of campaign funds.
Hey, it's a start!
Otoh, Hunter says that the indictment is a "witch hunt" carried out by the "deep state", so I don't know what to think.
evince (12-14-2018), PoliTalker (12-14-2018)
well I guess we wont hear the right talk about running the government more like a business and us needing a CEO president anymore
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evince (12-14-2018)
and he actually didn't win
the republicans cheated voters out of their rights
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Hello Troll,
Do you think Republicans believe that? Do Republicans think the government safety net is corruption? 'The swamp?'
They don't care about the CFPB, don't understand what it is supposed to do, don't care if it becomes the financial industry profit protection bureau? The FIPPB?
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Seems to me corruption is worse with President Trump than it was with President Obama.
From the administration itself on down.
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swampy draining continues to expose the deep Trump state
PoliTalker (12-15-2018)
Credit to Sarah Palin for inspiring the title of this thread.
(Sorry to bring up past embarrassments, conservatives. Well not so much, really. We all wondered how you could back her. Now that you elected President Trump, we no longer wonder. We know it's motivated by hatred.)
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