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Of course they vote.
They might not vote in the same numbers as other groups, but to say they do not vote is completely wrong.
You even posted stats showing what percentage of Trump's vote came from the poor white trash.
So it's interesting how you're avoiding the detail here.
First you said Clinton won a pluarility of the poor vote, then you said the poor don't vote, and now you're actively hiding the demographic breakdown of the poor vote simply because you don't want to admit that poor white trash voted for Trump, and poor white trash is also the white trash killing itself with drugs and booze.
If I'm wrong, simply post the demographic breakdown of the lower income groups and how those demographic groups voted. Here, I'll even get you started:
__% of black voters with income below $30K voted for Trump
__% of white voters with income below $30K voted for Trump
__% of Latinx/Hispanic voters with income below $30K voted for Trump
All you have to do is fill in the number above.
If what you're saying is true, all those percentages should reflect the split Clinton had, right? After all, you're saying all poor people vote the same regardless of race...er um, wait, poor people don't vote, right? Isn't that the tactic you're using to shirk accountability for your thinking?
When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist
I'm not calling them poor.
I'm calling them poor white trash.
You keep wanting to broaden out the group we're talking about here just so you don't have to admit that I'm right when I say that the poor white trash drinking itself to death out of despair is the same poor white trash that voted for Trump.
You said they weren't, and I asked what other poor white trash could we possibly be talking about?
That's when you unilaterally decided to broaden the parameters out to all poor people.
But the fucking OP is strictly about how poor, middle aged, white people are seeing their mortality rates spike solely because of drug and alcohol abuse as a result of their whiny despair.
You keep trying to pretend that because Hillary won a plurality of the poor vote, that means she also won a pluarility of the poor white trash vote. But you know the moment you start looking at the demographic breakdown of that bloc of poor voters, you'll see that race weighs heavily on the vote.ou do not to admit that Hillary voters were the lowest income and least educated. I do not think that makes them "lesser" humans like you do.
Go ahead...prove me wrong by breaking down that poor voter demographic by race. See if your theory that Clinton won a plurality of poor voters translates to Clinton winning a majority -or a plurality even- of poor white voters, AKA the group we are talking about in the OP.
Or, you could just admit you've been talking out of your ass and are avoiding an admission that I'm right and that my OP makes sense.
When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist
I never said all Trump voters were poor.
What I said was that poor white trash voted for Trump and constitute his base of support.
That is clear in the voter breakdown demos you provided earlier, and the ones you held back because otherwise you'd have to admit that poor white voters chose Trump over Clinton.
I also said these poor white trash voters are the same ones drinking themselves to death.
Poor white trash has seen its mortality rate increase due to deaths of despair, poor white trash voted for Trump. <--These are not mutually exclusive.
When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist
Some had their speaking engagements cancelled and some were unable to speak because they were shouted down. I have no problem with protesting a speaker they dislike, but I do have a problem when they will not let that person speak. Free speech does not include incitement (although that is a vague and hard to prosecute charge) by Nazis or any other group. But any constitutional free speech applies to Nazis, communists, BLM, anti-fa, white supremacists, and every other person in the U. S.
The information about voter income are not "views" I hold, they are the widely accepted results of the election. I am just repeating facts to counter those who state otherwise. A fact is not a "view" unless it is contested by reliable sources.
cawacko (12-18-2018)
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Like who? Who was in the middle of speaking and then had to be rushed offstage because of protesters?
You know, the more and more we delve into this, the less and less convincing your argument becomes because you start omitting things from your argument that change your argument.
Like you did when you omitted the demographic breakdown of poor 2016 voters. You completely omitted that breakdown because it didn't suit your narrative that poor white trash voted for Clinton, and are the same poor white trash killing themselves with drusg and booze because of whiny despair...aka the subject of the OP.
When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist
So this is a contradiction-in-terms.
You appreciate free speech up until the point when it starts infringing on the speech of others. But if that free speech is thinly-veiled incitement and fascism, you would consider stopping a violation of free speech.
So I guess we need to establish where you draw the line between speech and incitement. Doesn't seem like you've really given that much thought. Doing so might disrupt the "both siderism" you're trying to hide behind.
Am I understanding your position?
When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist
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