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    Default Why do Dems suport building the fence but not the wall?

    fence is physical barrier that is somewhat effective
    ( except apparently from that 19 year old pregnant woman who scaled it)

    Shumer/Pelosi= "impractical" -it's not .
    it's not the exact same design across the entire border due to geology but it's built to standards that scaling even with a rope is ineffective.

    Pelosi = "it's immoral" - it's not.
    There is nothing moral about desperados and coyotes smuggling in trains of people -
    many carrying drugs across the border to die in the desert, or enter the USA illegally.

    It's physically effective, cost effective and in long stretches of the border the best tool for border security.

    Supporting a fence but not a wall is hypocritical politics

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    It's no surprise that minorities that usually vote for liberal Democrats oppose the wall.

    Ice Cube: Trump’s Border Wall Is ‘Pathetic’

    The rapper also called a border wall “dumb” and “a waste of money.”

    You'd think he'd be for it since some of his people would get the jobs to construct the border wall.

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainm...going-to-jail/

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    Building something that won't work is stupid

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    fence is physical barrier that is somewhat effective
    ( except apparently from that 19 year old pregnant woman who scaled it)

    Shumer/Pelosi= "impractical" -it's not .
    it's not the exact same design across the entire border due to geology but it's built to standards that scaling even with a rope is ineffective.

    Pelosi = "it's immoral" - it's not.
    There is nothing moral about desperados and coyotes smuggling in trains of people -
    many carrying drugs across the border to die in the desert, or enter the USA illegally.

    It's physically effective, cost effective and in long stretches of the border the best tool for border security.

    Supporting a fence but not a wall is hypocritical politics

    We have 21,000 border patrol agents since Obama was in office.. Isn't that about 10.5 agents per mile of border?
    He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvilleherb View Post
    It's no surprise that minorities that usually vote for liberal Democrats oppose the wall.

    Ice Cube: Trump’s Border Wall Is ‘Pathetic’

    The rapper also called a border wall “dumb” and “a waste of money.”

    You'd think he'd be for it since some of his people would get the jobs to construct the border wall.

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainm...going-to-jail/

    He's correct and evidently smarter than you.. We have 10.5 border patrol agents per mile of border. That's one border patrol agent for every 503 feet of border.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    He's correct and evidently smarter than you.. We have 10.5 border patrol agents per mile of border. That's one border patrol agent for every 503 feet of border.
    Do you know that each agent does not work 24/7 - 365? Looking at your math, ... apparrntly not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Do you know that each agent does not work 24/7 - 365? Looking at your math, ... apparrntly not.
    So divide by three shifts.. That means there is 1500 feet of border for every shift. LOLOL. THINK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    We have 21,000 border patrol agents since Obama was in office.. Isn't that about 10.5 agents per mile of border?
    they would not be on duty all at once and some are administratives

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgutz View Post
    Building something that won't work is stupid
    Your mom failed to abort you when she had the chance, grandpa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    they would not be on duty all at once and some are administratives
    Don't you think 21,000 people can secure 2,000 miles of border?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Don't you think 21,000 people can secure 2,000 miles of border?
    apparently not. 51,000 arrests last month -how many got thru with that extraordinary number?
    They are literally flooding the border.

    And once they cross they DO NOT get deported! They know to claim asylum,
    Trump says he is stopping catch and release- but our laws require he do. we can't process that fast.

    The asylum laws are screwed up. Did it look to you like CHuck and Nancy were concerned about that?
    Chuck was laughing at the whole thing - it's just a political game to him.
    Once Trump said he's own the shutdown, that was all he cared about. not border security

    NY and CA being sanctuary states as well -they do not care about illegals and shelter illegal criminals

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post

    Supervisory Border Patrol Agent Victor Guzman points out a cut mark on the border fence west of Columbus, New Mexico, on Wednesday. Guzman, who has worked in the area for nearly a decade, said agents have found holes cut with torches and axes.
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/24070197/n.../#.XBD2geJ7mM9
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    So divide by three shifts.. That means there is 1500 feet of border for every shift. LOLOL. THINK.
    What? ... no holidays? ... no sick days? ... no vacation days? ... no maternity leave? You are a slave master.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    fence is physical barrier that is somewhat effective
    ( except apparently from that 19 year old pregnant woman who scaled it)

    Shumer/Pelosi= "impractical" -it's not .
    it's not the exact same design across the entire border due to geology but it's built to standards that scaling even with a rope is ineffective.

    Pelosi = "it's immoral" - it's not.
    There is nothing moral about desperados and coyotes smuggling in trains of people -
    many carrying drugs across the border to die in the desert, or enter the USA illegally.

    It's physically effective, cost effective and in long stretches of the border the best tool for border security.

    Supporting a fence but not a wall is hypocritical politics
    It's only hypocritical if you believe they're sincere about wanting to build a fence. I think they're just trolling Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    It's only hypocritical if you believe they're sincere about wanting to build a fence. I think they're just trolling Trump.
    I honestly think they do not want to give Trump "his wall"(which Pelosi ascribes to "manhood" issues by Trump)
    because it would be a political win for Trump.

    Afterall they want Mueller to throw him out. By any means possible. It's all about politics.
    That was pretty clear in the Oval Office yesterday. Screw border security. get Trump!

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