Remember when DEMOCRATS voted for secure borders?

[Legion]

I don't see any evidence to support your contentions, mature masturbator. Is that because you have none?

[Guno צְבִי]

Too many alien invaders, cum gargler.

In November, 51,856 people were apprehended between ports of entry on the Southwest Border, compared with 51,001 in the month of October. In FY18, a total of 396,579 individuals were apprehended between ports of entry on our Southwest Border.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

poor green jello eating mutant

[jimmymccready]

LegionCumGargler is not telling you that border crossings are very low, and the action is at the legal point of entry at the asylum centers.

[kudzu]

A Border Wall Already Exists In Some Places. We Visited It. (see photos)

Last year, our photographer visited the heavily guarded—and completely empty—parts of the 2,000-mile-long U.S.-Mexico border.

BY DANIEL STONE
PHOTOGRAPHS BY JAMES WHITLOW DELANO


President Trump ordered the construction today of a border wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. But there's at least one complication so far: a wall already exists in some areas. Last spring, we visited different parts of border—the ones heavily guarded with long lines for cars to cross, and the places where the two countries are separated by little more than dirt and trees.


The border that Trump hopes the wall will protect is roughly 2,000 miles long. And the area spans diverse geology, including terrain not always hospitable or conducive to large-scale construction. (Trump hasn't said exactly how high he wants the wall to be, or how thick, although engineering and media critiques have questioned the feasibility of such a project.)

Piecemeal walls have been used before in the region, and some have been successful in stopping large scale operations of smuggling and illegal immigration. The Smuggler's Gulch fence was designed as part of a $60 million engineering project to fortify 3.5 miles of fencing between San Diego and Tijuana. Further east in Jacumba, California, a border wall was constructed in the mid-1990s to disrupt human and drug trafficking. The large stretches to the east and west are the areas Trump wants to fix, the places with a small border fence, if one at all.

But photographer James Whitlow Delano learned during his time reporting along the border that walls alone don't solve such problems. In April of 2015, U.S. border patrol agents seized almost 70 pounds of amphetamines that drug smugglers had transported across the border. The border agents realized that to get around the wall between Calexico, California, and Mexicali, Mexico, the smugglers had found another way. They built a tunnel.

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...ly-looks-like/

[Legion]

LegionCumGargler is not telling you that border crossings are very low, and the action is at the legal point of entry at the asylum centers.

McLiar is McLying.

[jimmymccready]

This message is hidden because Legion is on your ignore list.

LegionCumGargler is not telling you that border crossings are very low, and the action is at the legal point of entry at the asylum centers.

[Legion]

A Border Wall Already Exists In Some Places. We Visited It. (see photos) Last year, our photographer visited the heavily guarded—and completely empty—parts of the 2,000-mile-long U.S.-Mexico border. BY DANIEL STONE PHOTOGRAPHS BY JAMES WHITLOW DELANO
President Trump ordered the construction today of a border wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. But there's at least one complication so far: a wall already exists in some areas. Last spring, we visited different parts of border—the ones heavily guarded with long lines for cars to cross, and the places where the two countries are separated by little more than dirt and trees. The border that Trump hopes the wall will protect is roughly 2,000 miles long. And the area spans diverse geology, including terrain not always hospitable or conducive to large-scale construction. (Trump hasn't said exactly how high he wants the wall to be, or how thick, although engineering and media critiques have questioned the feasibility of such a project.)
Piecemeal walls have been used before in the region, and some have been successful in stopping large scale operations of smuggling and illegal immigration. The Smuggler's Gulch fence was designed as part of a $60 million engineering project to fortify 3.5 miles of fencing between San Diego and Tijuana. Further east in Jacumba, California, a border wall was constructed in the mid-1990s to disrupt human and drug trafficking. The large stretches to the east and west are the areas Trump wants to fix, the places with a small border fence, if one at all. But photographer James Whitlow Delano learned during his time reporting along the border that walls alone don't solve such problems. In April of 2015, U.S. border patrol agents seized almost 70 pounds of amphetamines that drug smugglers had transported across the border. The border agents realized that to get around the wall between Calexico, California, and Mexicali, Mexico, the smugglers had found another way. They built a tunnel. https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...ly-looks-like/

So should just give up on trying to enforce all laws because people will always try to find a way to defeat deterrents, right, fraudster?

[Legion]

This message is hidden because Legion is on your ignore list.

LegionCumGargler is not telling you that border crossings are very low, and the action is at the legal point of entry at the asylum centers.

McLiar is McLying about McIgnoring me, and he McForgot to post any evidence to support his contentions "that border crossings are very low, and the action is at the legal point of entry at the asylum centers."

[jimmymccready]

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[anatta]

Why do Dems suport building the fence but not the wall?

fence is physical barrier that is somewhat effective
( except apparently from that 19 year old pregnant woman who scaled it)

Shumer/Pelosi= "impractical" -it's not .
it's not the exact same design across the entire border due to geology but it's built to standards that scaling
even with a rope is tough. Definately now simple scaling like fences though

Pelosi = "it's immoral" - it's not.
There is nothing moral about desperados and coyotes smuggling in trains of people -
many carrying drugs across the border to die in the desert, or enter the USA illegally.

It's physically effective, cost effective and in long stretches of the border the best tool for border security.

Supporting a fence but not a wall is hypocritical politics

[anatta]

LegionCumGargler is not telling you that border crossings are very low, and the action is at the legal point of entry at the asylum centers.

50k illegals caught in October

[Adolf_Twitler]

You better believe the Democrats wanted, and still want the fence and funded it originally! In fact, we recently happily re-funded it to complete it, as it was over budget and still not finished.

I don't see your point in this thread Opie!

[anatta]

You better believe the Democrats wanted, and still want the fence and funded it originally! In fact, we recently happily re-funded it to complete it, as it was over budget and still not finished.

I don't see your point in this thread Opie!

point? why build a less effective fence.
It's a one time cost either way. It acts as a key physical barrier coupled with mobile border patrol agents.
It stops illegal entry -or greatly reduces it

[Adolf_Twitler]

point? why build a less effective fence.
It's a one time cost either way. It acts as a key physical barrier coupled with mobile border patrol agents.
It stops illegal entry -or greatly reduces it

The fence serves it's purpose! Donald Trump needs to get something for his campaign promise to do something about immigration.

But, he needs to forget about building a bigger wall, and shift his attention to some of the other things the Border Patrol really needs.

Donald Trump can still keep his promise to help resolve some of the Immigration problems. There are a lot of Democrats and Republicans willing to help him. And there are a lot of things still needed to be done!

But, it won't be a 500 billion dollar useless wall! Sorry!

This would be the perfect time for Donald Trump to Challenge Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell to come up with an Immigration Bill that we can all live with, and have it on his desk no later than July 1st!

I know that that would shock most people- but it is the kind of shock we all need right now- even Donald Trump!

[Legion]

You better believe the Democrats wanted, and still want the fence and funded it originally! In fact, we recently happily re-funded it to complete it, as it was over budget and still not finished.

Citation required.