Remember when DEMOCRATS voted for secure borders?

[anatta]

The fence serves it's purpose! Donald Trump needs to get something for his campaign promise to do something about immigration.

But, he needs to forget about building a bigger wall, and shift his attention to some of the other things the Border Patrol really needs.

Donald Trump can still keep his promise to help resolve some of the Immigration problems. There are a lot of Democrats and Republicans willing to help him. And there are a lot of things still needed to be done!

But, it won't be a 500 billion dollar useless wall! Sorry!

This would be the perfect time for Donald Trump to Challenge Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell to come up with an Immigration Bill that we can all live with, and have it on his desk no later than July 1st!

I know that that would shock most people- but it is the kind of shock we all need right now- even Donald Trump!

the fence does not serve any purpose. it's easily bypassed. I've seen pictures where it's been burned thru with torches

[anatta]

Supervisory Border Patrol Agent Victor Guzman points out a cut mark on the border fence west of Columbus, New Mexico, on Wednesday. Guzman, who has worked in the area for nearly a decade, said agents have found holes cut with torches and axes.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/24070197/n.../#.XBD2geJ7mM9

[anatta]

Everybody’s Wrong: Donald Trump Won the Chuck-n-Nancy Meeting, and Here’s Why
https://www.thedailybeast.com/everyb...-and-heres-why

Trump had home court advantage during Tuesday’s meeting. However, Chuck Schumer seemed especially outmatched by a very forceful Donald Trump. As Bill Kristol (no Trump apologist) put it: “[B]ased on what I saw of their respective performances in that Oval Office meeting today, I don’t understand why it’s Nancy Pelosi who’s facing a leadership challenge and Chuck Schumer who isn’t.”

The mainstream media will focus on the immediate seriousness of a shutdown and lament the lack of civility in politics. But I suspect many Americans will see that there was something refreshing about Trump’s public stance.

Politicians often promise to drive a tough bargain (when rallying their base before an election), only to engage in conciliatory rhetoric when face to face with an adversary. The civilized “norm,” in other words, is to be a fake. But here—face to face with his adversaries—Trump defended his decision regarding a wall.

“I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck,” Trump declared. “Because the people of this country don’t want criminals and people that have lots of problems and drugs pouring into this country. So I will take the mantle, I will be the one to shut it down. I won’t blame you for it.”

There was something charming about this—and it’s precisely because there was something phony about an old game where Speaker Tip O’Neill might accuse Ronald Reagan of wanting to throw elderly people off Social Security (before dining with the Gipper and telling Irish stories).

(daily beast)

[Bourbon]

[jimmymccready]

50k illegals caught in October

Your post means nothing other than X was caught in a Y time period.


Contextualize that for the last ten years, and let's see what you have.

[anatta]

Your post means nothing other than X was caught in a Y time period.


Contextualize that for the last ten years, and let's see what you have.

obviously you do not follow the flow of economic migrants..those are record levels.
It's because they can illegally cross and once get in claim asylum

[jimmymccready]

Border Patrol needs the $5 billion not the wall.

[Bourbon]

Clinton, Obama, Schumer, Boxer, Feinstein, Biden voted YEA

On October 26, 2006, U.S. President George W. Bush signed the Secure Fence Act of 2006 (Pub.L. 109–367) into law stating, “This bill will help protect the American people. This bill will make our borders more secure."

The bill was introduced on Sep. 13, 2006 by Peter T. King (R-NY).

In the House of Representatives, the Fence Act passed 283–138 on September 14, 2006.

On September 29, 2006 – the Fence Act passed in the Senate 80–19.


https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s262

[Adolf_Twitler]

the fence does not serve any purpose. it's easily bypassed. I've seen pictures where it's been burned thru with torches

We've all seen the prototype that Donald Trump selected himself from all of the designs. It is only 3 feet taller, and 3 feet wider.

In other words, it could still be circumvented by those who are willing to take the extra measures to do so.

So, Donnie's wall would be no measurable difference than what is already in place now.

Just a waste of many Billions of dollars that we don't even have and just added to the deficit.

Sorry, but the facts are the facts!

[Jarod]

Clinton, Obama, Schumer, Boxer, Feinstein, Biden voted YEA

On October 26, 2006, U.S. President George W. Bush signed the Secure Fence Act of 2006 (Pub.L. 109–367) into law stating, “This bill will help protect the American people. This bill will make our borders more secure."

The bill was introduced on Sep. 13, 2006 by Peter T. King (R-NY).

In the House of Representatives, the Fence Act passed 283–138 on September 14, 2006.

On September 29, 2006 – the Fence Act passed in the Senate 80–19.


https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s262

Good, I am all for secure borders.

[canceled.2021.1]

Good, I am all for secure borders.

You lie

[Jarod]

Did they have a five billion dollar Wall, that the President promised America that Mexico rather than the American taxpayer would pay, for included in the bill?

No, he said secure borders. Not trumps wall, two very different things.

[Legion]

You lie

Yes, he does.

[Legion]

No, he said secure borders. Not trumps wall, two very different things.

Explain the DEMOCRAT plan to secure the borders. I'll understand if you can't, Brad.

[floridafan]

Explain the DEMOCRAT plan to secure the borders. I'll understand if you can't, Brad.

Do you rally think wall is going to secure the borders and stop drug trafficking?