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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    "In legal filings released Friday, prosecutors said Cohen told them that when he made the payments to the women, "he acted in coordination with and at the direction of" Trump, whom they identified in the filings as “Individual 1.”

    "Legal analysts said the allegations against Trump could amount to a felony if it's determined that there was a conspiracy to conceal payments from campaign contribution reports – and from the voters."

    "Obama's violation "consisted of failing to submit certain forms in time, while the Trump allegations involve large payments through shell companies and his lawyer."

    "The former is negligent, and the latter is knowing and willful. That is the difference – the mental state required."

    "In August, Cohen pleaded guilty to campaign finance felonies and told a judge that Trump directed illegal payments "for the principal purpose of influencing the election” for president in 2016."

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ts/2262446002/

    Perhaps "they would have likely made anyway" is true, but the secrecy and manner inwhich they were made is the difference

    And forget the martyr appeal for Trump, his blunders is solely his own doings
    Presidential candidates can deposit as much of their own money into their campaign as they wish. And, they can withdraw and spend their money as well.

    It's not as if it's like the 264 other government employees bailed out to the tune of $17mil paid by taxpayers which is kept in a Congressional slush fund. (Blake Farenhold was just one example)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Occam's razor would conclude that if a man has an affair with two women in 2006 and pays them off in the next few years, it may be about family.

    When the women are paid off in 2016 Occam's razor would say it is about the election.
    It doesn't matter. NDA's/payoffs are signed all the time to shut people up. Stormy signed that thing years ago. If her nonsense is going to to cause distress in every facet of his life...pay her off.
    Dang! Blake Farenhold did it and he and his team had his "problem person" sign one and settle with her for $80k to shut her up...and THAT was done WHILE he was in office AND with YOUR taxpayer money from the Congressional slush fund!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    It doesn't matter. NDA's/payoffs are signed all the time to shut people up. Stormy signed that thing years ago. If her nonsense is going to to cause distress in every facet of his life...pay her off.
    Dang! Blake Farenhold did it and he and his team had his "problem person" sign one and settle with her for $80k to shut her up...and THAT was done WHILE he was in office AND with YOUR taxpayer money from the Congressional slush fund!
    It mattered to Farenthold since he retired. And, it matters if it is determine paying off Daniels and McDougal were violations of campaign finance laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    It mattered to Farenthold since he retired. And, it matters if it is determine paying off Daniels and McDougal were violations of campaign finance laws.
    Presidential candidates can deposit as much of their own money into their campaign as they wish. And, they can withdraw and spend their money as well.
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    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Presidential candidates can deposit as much of their own money into their campaign as they wish. And, they can withdraw and spend their money as well.
    Tick tock. Tick tock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Presidential candidates can deposit as much of their own money into their campaign as they wish. And, they can withdraw and spend their money as well.
    I really dont remember, didn't Cohen get a second mortgage on his house to fund the payoff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Presidential candidates can deposit as much of their own money into their campaign as they wish. And, they can withdraw and spend their money as well.
    The spending was not the issue, it was the failure to file disclosure reports on that spending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I really dont remember, didn't Cohen get a second mortgage on his house to fund the payoff?
    Noooooooo. Obviously it was Trump's money...he can do what he wants with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Noooooooo. Obviously it was Trump's money...he can do what he wants with it.
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/09/polit...els/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    The spending was not the issue, it was the failure to file disclosure reports on that spending.
    Which as many politicians have done in the past in accordance with campaign finance rules...when that happens......these guys are simply assessed a fine and it's over. No front page news here.
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    I'm going by the campaign finance rules...not CNN. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    I'm going by the campaign finance rules...not CNN. Thanks.
    Of course you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Which as many politicians have done in the past in accordance with campaign finance rules...when that happens......these guys are simply assessed a fine and it's over. No front page news here.
    True, I was just pointing out the legal issues involved.

    When most presidential candidates used the federal campaign finance funds for the general election and nomination, they often had to return funds they had claimed during the election after FEC audits 2-3 years later.

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