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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    an obvious lie.....the shoot from the stump was the Messiah, not the remnant of Judah......by now you should realize that your attempts to rewrite scripture aren't going to work......



    so was Nebuchadnezzar......he wasn't the Messiah either.....
    The Jews didn't consider Nebuchadnezzar an anointed Messiah..

    The root of Jesse is the Jewish people....

    The Root of Jesse

    They will neither harm nor destroy on all My holy mountain, for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the LORD as the sea is full of water. 10On that day the root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples. The nations will seek Him, and His place of rest will be glorious.

    On that day the Lord will extend His hand a second time to recover the remnant of His people from Assyria, from Egypt, from Pathros, from Cush, from Elam, from Shinar, from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.…
    He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine

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    King James Bible

    And the remnant that is escaped of the house of Judah shall again take root downward, and bear fruit upward:

    Isaiah 11:10
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Its not a strange claim at all.. All the way thru the OT Israel is referred to the servant of god...

    The new testament writers were sort of gilding the lily.. to make Jesus the Jewish Messiah.. They tweaked the interpretation to make Jesus fit the prophesies ..

    Isaiah was probably talking about Cyrus the King of Persia who ended the Babylonian captivity and decreed that the Temple in Jerusalem be rebuilt..
    There you go pretending to be a religious expert again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    There you go pretending to be a religious expert again.
    One could probably study another lifetime and not be an expert, but the remnant of Judah is clearly defined as those Jews who returned from Babylon under King Cyrus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    One could probably study another lifetime and not be an expert, but the remnant of Judah is clearly defined as those Jews who returned from Babylon under King Cyrus.
    Then you should stop pretending to be one and making claims as if you believe you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    King James Bible

    And the remnant that is escaped of the house of Judah shall again take root downward, and bear fruit upward:

    Isaiah 11:10
    not the Messiah.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    the remnant of Judah is clearly defined as those Jews who returned from Babylon under King Cyrus.
    and the shoot out of the stump of Jesse is the Messiah.........just trying to drag your sorry ass back to the topic being discussed........

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    One could probably study another lifetime and not be an expert
    and you've managed to accomplish it with no study at all.......kudos to kudzu......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    and you've managed to accomplish it with no study at all.......kudos to kudzu......
    Do you know what Lashon Hara means?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Do you know what Lashon Hara means?
    your mother's maiden name?......

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    duplicate
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    your mother's maiden name?......
    The Hebrew term lashon hara (or loshon horo) "evil tongue" is the halakhic term for derogatory speech about another person.

    Lashon hara differs from defamation in that its focus is on the use of true speech for a wrongful purpose, rather than falsehood and harm arising.

    Speech is considered to be lashon hara (detraction) if it says something negative about a person or party, is not seriously intended to correct or improve a negative situation, and is true.

    Statements that fit this description are considered to be lashon hara, regardless of the method of communication that is used, whether it is through face-to-face conversation, a letter, telephone, or email, or even body language.

    Lashon hara (lit. "evil tongue") is considered to be a very serious sin in the Jewish tradition. The communicator of Lashon Hara violates the prohibition in Leviticus 19:16.

    My mother's maiden name is the same as Braveheart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    The Hebrew term lashon hara (or loshon horo) "evil tongue" is the halakhic term for derogatory speech about another person.

    Lashon hara differs from defamation in that its focus is on the use of true speech for a wrongful purpose, rather than falsehood and harm arising.

    Speech is considered to be lashon hara (detraction) if it says something negative about a person or party, is not seriously intended to correct or improve a negative situation, and is true.

    Statements that fit this description are considered to be lashon hara, regardless of the method of communication that is used, whether it is through face-to-face conversation, a letter, telephone, or email, or even body language.

    Lashon hara (lit. "evil tongue") is considered to be a very serious sin in the Jewish tradition. The communicator of Lashon Hara violates the prohibition in Leviticus 19:16.

    My mother's maiden name is the same as Braveheart.
    why the fuck do you post irrelevant shit like this?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    why the fuck do you post irrelevant shit like this?....
    Maybe you should consider "evil tongue".
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Maybe you should consider "evil tongue".
    \spurns kudzu's sexual advances......

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