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Thread: What is the difference between the old and new covenant ? Frank

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    YOU are the broken record.

    You blindly guess there is a god...you blindly guess the Bible tells you what the god is like and what pleases and offends it...and you blindly guess your blind guesses are a result of the inspired word of the god you blindly guess exists.

    You insult logic.
    Broken record, try something new!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    There's lots of thought in there. You ought to consider "thought" rather than that bullshit that runs your life.
    There's lots of lack of thought in there. You ought to consider lack of "thought" like I do rather than that inspired word of the God of the universe, that runs your life.[/QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    Broken record, try something new!
    Not a broken record.

    The truth.


    You blindly guess there is a god...you blindly guess the Bible tells you what the god is like and what pleases and offends it...and you blindly guess your blind guesses are a result of the inspired word of the god you blindly guess exists.


    Your argument is pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    There's lots of lack of thought in there. You ought to consider lack of "thought" like I do rather than that inspired word of the God of the universe, that runs your life.
    Now you are starting to quack...and to crack.

    The going is getting tough.

    You are not up to the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Not a broken record.

    The truth.


    You blindly guess there is a god...you blindly guess the Bible tells you what the god is like and what pleases and offends it...and you blindly guess your blind guesses are a result of the inspired word of the god you blindly guess exists.


    Your argument is pathetic.
    Are you a parrot, seriously, your argument is flawed and repetitive. You got no substance son!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Now you are starting to quack...and to crack.

    The going is getting tough.

    You are not up to the job.
    Still laughing, having fun at your expense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    Are you a parrot, seriously, your argument is flawed and repetitive. You got no substance son!
    You are blindly guessing there is a god...

    ...and you are blindly guessing that the Bible tells you what pleases that god and what offends it...

    ...and you are blindly guessing that you are inspired by the god you blindly guess exists.

    Every word there is the truth.

    I understand it hurts to see that, but YOU chose to do this religious nonsense here in public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    Still laughing, having fun at your expense!
    You are quacking.

    Lots of quacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    You are blindly guessing there is a god...

    ...and you are blindly guessing that the Bible tells you what pleases that god and what offends it...

    ...and you are blindly guessing that you are inspired by the god you blindly guess exists.

    Every word there is the truth.

    I understand it hurts to see that, but YOU chose to do this religious nonsense here in public.
    ,

    Let me know when you come up with something new you are dismissed for being a parrot who has no idea! And boring me, you lost on every front and now simply baaaaa baaaaaa like your socialist masters tell you to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    You are quacking.

    Lots of quacking.
    As soon as you present something new we will converse, until then, know you owe me a couple new shirts, because twice I have spit out coffee laughing at your repetitive B.S and general asshatedness!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    ,

    Let me know when you come up with something new you are dismissed for being a parrot who has no idea! And boring me, you lost on every front and now simply baaaaa baaaaaa like your socialist masters tell you to.
    I have not lost on any item of controversy in this discussion. NOT A ONE.

    But people like you like to retreat...and declare victory.

    No problem. Everyone watching knows you are running away.

    And...youR Jesus was much, much, much, much, much closer to what today is a "socialist" than to what today is a "capitalist."

    MUCH CLOSER!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    As soon as you present something new we will converse, until then, know you owe me a couple new shirts, because twice I have spit out coffee laughing at your repetitive B.S and general asshatedness!
    I doubt you are doing any laughter.

    You really cannot pull that off.

    I definitely am laughing...watching you run away.

    Just be careful of the door. It might hit you in the ass on your way out.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    I have not lost on any item of controversy in this discussion. NOT A ONE.

    But people like you like to retreat...and declare victory.

    No problem. Everyone watching knows you are running away.

    And...youR Jesus was much, much, much, much, much closer to what today is a "socialist" than to what today is a "capitalist."

    MUCH CLOSER!
    Keep it up it really is great medicine on a tough day! You have yet to show any intelligence in this discussion, its the same old mantra "blind guess"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    I doubt you are doing any laughter.

    You really cannot pull that off.

    I definitely am laughing...watching you run away.

    Just be careful of the door. It might hit you in the ass on your way out.


    I doubt you are doing any laughter I run from no man I am justy gonna wait for you to say anything intelligent on the subject cause you batting 0.000

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    Jesus fulfilled the law!
    We see the first pointer of how things have changed dramatically in Matthew 5:17 where Jesus says, “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.” So all the Old Testament finds its completion and fulfillment in Jesus — and that is a basic truth that a person needs to understand. Everything in the Old Testament was pointing toward Jesus as the Son of God incarnate, dying and rising to save his people. And, therefore, in his person, in his ministry, the whole Old Testament reaches a climax and is dramatically altered.

    The Bible spells out many of the specifics of this dramatic alteration. For example, the book of Hebrews is probably the classic place for showing how the old covenant has become obsolete with the coming of the new covenant. Hebrews 8:13 says, “In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.” And, for example, the death of Jesus is the once-for-all sacrifice for sins so that the entire Old Testament sacrificial system of offering animals comes to an end.

    Hebrews 7:27 and 9:12 say Jesus is the final Lamb of God. The whole Old Testament sacrificial system is over. It doesn’t apply anymore. Another example from Hebrews is that Jesus himself offers the sacrifice of himself and therefore Jesus is the final Priest. And you don’t need any more priests. And so the entire Old Testament priesthood is removed. It is over. We have one, new, final, eternal High Priest, Jesus Christ.

    A third example is that Jesus saw himself as the new temple. “If you destroy this temple, I will build it in three days” (John 2:19). And he meant, I will rise from the dead in three days. So when the temple was destroyed in 70 AD, the place of worship for Christians was not destroyed, because we don’t have a place for worship that is limited geographically. We have Jesus. And any place Jesus is, we can worship.

    So all of those specifics are how the old covenant was becoming obsolete. And dramatic changes came about and hundreds of commands in the Old Testament don’t apply to Christians anymore, because this new phase of redemptive history has come.
    However, the ten commandments are still in force, even though they are OT. Just saying. I've had atheists try to tell me they aren't valid anymore.

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