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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    Obey Those in Authority

    13 All of you must obey those who rule over you. There are no authorities except the ones God has chosen. Those who now rule have been chosen by God. 2 So whoever opposes the authorities opposes leaders whom God has appointed. Those who do that will be judged.

    What then do we do with this?
    Juezzzusss H. Keerist, Wolverine...are you telling us that your god is responsible for that bag of garbage now sitting in the Oval Office.

    Have you no respect for your god at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Jesus told you that you are still obligated to the old covenant.
    All God's people do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    All God's people do.
    Apparently not Wolverine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    There is no "new" testament

    The Formation and Creation of the Bible's New Testament


    http://www.humanreligions.info/creat...testament.html


    And the goyim's understanding of the Hebrew Tanakh is laughable at best

    The Tanakh has nothing to do with the goyim
    At first I was somewhat amused at your use of the term goyim, and then TaNaK, however, you are now becoming an irritant with your childish outlook on a subject you obviously know little of.
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Juezzzusss H. Keerist, Wolverine...are you telling us that your god is responsible for that bag of garbage now sitting in the Oval Office.

    Have you no respect for your god at all?
    Why do you wish to cherry pick the scripture in order to suit your own belief system?

    Scripture says "There is no God". Do you believe that also?

    You see, you want to believe that the Law still exists as if Christ did not fulfill the law with His sacrifice so that we are no longer under the burden of the law. Do you wish to make Christs sacrifice of no effect?

    And if God had not wanted Trump in office to perform whatever God has planned, who are you to say He could not have stopped him from being elected?
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Not one word did pass away......until Jesus the Christ declared, "IT IS FINISHED." -- John 19:30. Since that time we are no longer bound by the Laws of Moses. In reality not one Gentile was ever bound to the Laws of Moses as the Old Law was specific to the nation of Biblical Israel only. The Sabbath was a unique covenant between Israel and God the Father, not to any other nation on earth -- Ez. 20:5, 10-12.
    Israel and the church are one and the same, God's holy nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    You see, you want to believe that the Law still exists as if Christ did not fulfill the law with His sacrifice so that we are no longer under the burden of the law. Do you wish to make Christs sacrifice of no effect?
    "Fulfilling" the law is not doing away with the law. Just the opposite, Jesus can't fulfill a law that has been eliminated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    Israel and the church are one and the same, God's holy nation.
    No.. Modern day Israel is NOT the church.
    He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    Why do you wish to cherry pick the scripture in order to suit your own belief system?
    I do not do "believing."

    I make guesses...and call them guesses; or suppositions and call them suppositions; I have opinions and call them opinions.

    Scripture says "There is no God". Do you believe that also?
    I do not do "believing"...and I do not care what "scripture" says. "Scripture" is what ancient, superstitious, relatively ignorant people blindly guessed about the REALITY of existence. It is my opinion that anyone still using those blind guesses as a basis for their blind guesses...is an asshole.

    You see, you want to believe that the Law still exists as if Christ did not fulfill the law with His sacrifice so that we are no longer under the burden of the law. Do you wish to make Christs sacrifice of no effect?
    We are having a discussion in an Internet forum.

    If you think I must conform to your blind guesses about the REALITY of existence...I am going to tell you to go fuck yourself.

    I will ask you what I asked the other guy: What the hell does "Christ fulfilled the law" fucking mean?

    And if God had not wanted Trump in office to perform whatever God has planned, who are you to say He could not have stopped him from being elected?
    I am NOT saying that...so stop pretending that I did.

    I asked a question.

    Read the goddam question...and answer it if you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Lots of contradictions.
    only atheists waste their time creating claims of contradictions out of human errors in translation.......to what purpose?......

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    No.. Modern day Israel is NOT the church.
    Of course not. The Church is the Israel of God, not a state of Jesus-haters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    only atheists waste their time creating claims of contradictions out of human errors in translation.......to what purpose?......
    Then how could it be inerrant?

    Do you believe that the patriarchs lived hundreds of years or do you look at their counting system?
    He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Jesus told you that you are still obligated to the old covenant.
    that is the exact opposite of the truth.......I've already given you the verse in which he created the new covenant......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    Of course not. The Church is the Israel of God, not a state of Jesus-haters.

    How exactly is that relevant? The destruction of the Temple changed Judaism .. It was the end of blood sacrifice.. it was then end of Jewish dominion and the beginning of Rabbinic Judaism.
    He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Then how could it be inerrant?

    Do you believe that the patriarchs lived hundreds of years or do you look at their counting system?
    First, the Bible is infallible, not inerrant.....
    Second, the errors occur in human translation, not in the word of God.....
    Third, yes......I believe the patriarchs lived hundreds of years due to the direct actions of God.......

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