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Thread: What is the difference between the old and new covenant ? Frank

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    However, the ten commandments are still in force, even though they are OT. Just saying. I've had atheists try to tell me they aren't valid anymore.
    Lol, yep, cherry picking the OT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    Keep it up it really is great medicine on a tough day! You have yet to show any intelligence in this discussion, its the same old mantra "blind guess"
    Yup...blind guesses.

    I made a guess. (It wasn't really blind.)

    I expected that the "I'm going away" bullshit...was...ummm...BULLSHIT.

    So...do you have any other BLIND GUESSES to share with us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    I doubt you are doing any laughter I run from no man I am justy gonna wait for you to say anything intelligent on the subject cause you batting 0.000
    You are not going to wait for anything. I own you.

    I will bring you back into the conversation whenever I want. You don't have the discipline to stay away.

    Anyway...I don't blame you for running.

    I've shown that you do lots of blind guessing...and almost no thinking.

    And, I have established that JESUS indicated that there is no new covenant...and that he was NOT here to change the law in any way.

    So...you are stuck with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    You are not going to wait for anything. I own you.

    I will bring you back into the conversation whenever I want. You don't have the discipline to stay away.

    Anyway...I don't blame you for running.

    I've shown that you do lots of blind guessing...and almost no thinking.

    And, I have established that JESUS indicated that there is no new covenant...and that he was NOT here to change the law in any way.

    So...you are stuck with that.

    Studying the Bible and ancient history, Dilmun, Ras Shamra adds so much to understanding that Bronze age culture.. I just don't get these literalists who have to change scripture to mean what some modern day prophet tells them it means.
    He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Studying the Bible and ancient history, Dilmun, Ras Shamra adds so much to understanding that Bronze age culture.. I just don't get these literalists who have to change scripture to mean what some modern day prophet tells them it means.
    I know what you mean, Kudzu.

    But Wolverine is a special case...a joke...a rather sad joke.

    I do laugh at him...but I often feel regret for laughing at a fool. I also worry that some of the shit he has to deal with here is going to drive him off the wagon. That I would NOT want to see.

    I have no problem with his professed love for his god...but if he is going to peddle the shit he has attempted to peddle here, I just have got to school him.

    And "schooling him" is what I have been doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    I know what you mean, Kudzu.

    But Wolverine is a special case...a joke...a rather sad joke.

    I do laugh at him...but I often feel regret for laughing at a fool. I also worry that some of the shit he has to deal with here is going to drive him off the wagon. That I would NOT want to see.

    I have no problem with his professed love for his god...but if he is going to peddle the shit he has attempted to peddle here, I just have got to school him.

    And "schooling him" is what I have been doing.

    Did you see my thread on two creation stories? Wolverine would probably think it was written by an atheist.
    He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Lol, yep, cherry picking the OT
    No. It isnt. God never changes. So His commandments are eternal.
    NOTE: Jewish laws of the the OT were not commandments. They were laws for a certain people for a certain time. The ten commandments are universal and unchanging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    No. It isnt. God never changes. So His commandments are eternal.
    NOTE: Jewish laws of the the OT were not commandments. They were laws for a certain people for a certain time. The ten commandments are are universal and unchanging.
    Yep, cherry picking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Yep, cherry picking.
    You are a perfect example of someone who mocks what they lack the ability to understand. I pity you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    You are a perfect example of someone who mocks what they lack the ability to understand. I pity you.
    Yes, I know, most Christians who don’t know the history of their scriptures make this claim, it’s a cop out. Like their excuse for cherry picking scripture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Yes, I know, most Christians who don’t know the history of their scriptures make this claim, it’s a cop out. Like their excuse for cherry picking scripture.
    Well. I see that it is time for you to go back on my ignore list. I gave you another chance and you totally blew it. You are completely incapable of engaging in honest debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    Well. I see that it is time for you to go back on my ignore list. I gave you another chance and you totally blew it. You are completely incapable of engaging in honest debate.
    No, it’s been proven that is you, not I, you were the one caught in a lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    No. It isnt. God never changes. So His commandments are eternal.
    NOTE: Jewish laws of the the OT were not commandments. They were laws for a certain people for a certain time. The ten commandments are universal and unchanging.
    And among those people in that certain time was a man called Jesus of Nazareth.

    And Jesus said:

    "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets. I have come, not to abolish them, but to fulfill them. Of this much I assure you; UNTIL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS AWAY, not the smallest letter of the law, not the smallest part of a letter shall be done away with until it all comes true."


    Matthew 5:17ff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    Well. I see that it is time for you to go back on my ignore list. I gave you another chance and you totally blew it. You are completely incapable of engaging in honest debate.
    YOU will not tolerate "honest debate", Grugore.

    YOU never do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    No. It isnt. God never changes. So His commandments are eternal.
    One of the more obvious differences betwixt the Old & New Testaments is the fact that Yahweh (Jehovah, if you will) was definitely kick-ass, whereas Yeshua (Jesus, if you will) is alleged to have promoted the turn-the-other-cheek & love-thy-neighbor shtick.

    All you Trinitarian types can have some fun with that.
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