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    Default Schiff: Trump may face ‘real prospect of jail time’

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    Schiff: Trump may face ‘real prospect of jail time’

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    Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) on Sunday said that President Trump might "face the real prospect of jail time" after prosecutors indicated last week that he directed illegal payments during his 2016 presidential campaign.

    "There's a very real prospect that on the day Donald Trump leaves office, the Justice Department may indict him. That he may be the first president in quite some time to face the real prospect of jail time," he said on CBS's "Face the Nation."

    Schiff's comments come after federal prosecutors said in a legal filing Friday that referred to Trump as Individual-1 that Trump coordinated with and directed his former personal attorney, Michael Cohen, during the 2016 campaign to make illegal payments to two women claiming they had affairs with Trump. It was the first time prosecutors made those accusations against Trump.

    Schiff, who is likely to be the next chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, added that the next president may have to determine whether to pardon Trump.

    "We have been discussing the issue of pardons the president may offer to people or dangle in front of people," Schiff said. "The bigger pardon question may come down the road, as the next president has to determine whether to pardon Donald Trump."

    "I think the prosecutors in New York make a powerful case against that idea," he added. "All the arguments they make against Michael Cohen ... that argument was equally made with respect to Individual-1, the president of the United States."

    https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-...-jail-time?amp
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    Put up or stfu time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    Put up or stfu time.
    For Trump.
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    There's plenty of room to criticize Trump administration policy aims and methods.

    That's not what this thread is about.

    And in the context of this specific topic, the preponderance of the reports are correct, my question would be, which of these poison pills will end the president's term first.
    "It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    For Trump.
    For this economic/political system.

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    Schiff isn't stupid. CF violations do not usually give jail time
    ( even if this is one -recall Mueller is writing a political narrative for Congress to impeach more then anything)

    But he knows they will go for an impeachment -they almost have to with members salivating with blood lust
    for Trump's hide nailed to the church door..

    So if(when) they do it -they can feel like they are laying the terms for a "prosecution" when impeachment fails.
    Makes them feel good about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Schiff isn't stupid. CF violations do not usually give jail time
    ( even if this is one -recall Mueller is writing a political narrative for Congress to impeach more then anything)

    But he knows they will go for an impeachment -they almost have to with member salivating with blood lust for Trump's hide.

    So if(when) they do it -they can feel like they are laying the terms for a "prosecution" when impeachment fails.
    Makes them feel good about it

    And let's not forget we don't hold our war criminals responsible either, so yeah, I don't see this entitled crooked aristocrat being held accountable either.

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    If Mueller stretches things out past the two year mark of Trump's 4 year elected term, my sources assert President could run for president in 2020, and again in 2024.
    "It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by sear View Post
    If Mueller stretches things out past the two year mark of Trump's 4 year elected term, my sources assert President could run for president in 2020, and again in 2024.
    He better start something to save the economy from a recession.

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    Clarification:

    If Mueller stretches things out past the two year mark of Trump's 4 year elected term, & is then impeached and removed from office, my sources assert President Pence could then complete the presidential term, & run for president in 2020, and again in 2024.
    "It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Schiff isn't stupid. CF violations do not usually give jail time
    ( even if this is one -recall Mueller is writing a political narrative for Congress to impeach more then anything)

    But he knows they will go for an impeachment -they almost have to with members salivating with blood lust
    for Trump's hide nailed to the church door..

    So if(when) they do it -they can feel like they are laying the terms for a "prosecution" when impeachment fails.
    Makes them feel good about it


    These charges against trump are only the beginning, there are more to follow. It will get to a point where even the Senate will agree to try him after the House impeaches him.

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    P #9

    Understood.
    But President Trump is a dyed in the wool member of the smoke-&-mirrors party.
    He already did the tax cut thing.
    Now Trump acts like he's going to back our trading partners down, and get U.S. better trade deals abroad. I wish Trump success. But I'm not betting on it.
    "Nobody knows the system better than me." "Which is why I alone can fix it." presidential candidate Trump 16/07/21 from the campaign podium
    a) Bull Oney !

    b) I'm not sure Trump is a particularly shrewd negotiator, except to this extent:
    "The one that controls the relationship is the one that cares the least." psychologist Joy Browne
    Trump cares about himself more than anything, or anyone else.
    "It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18

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    Something that slipped under the radar among all the daily Trump noise ..

    Donald Trump’s Biggest Lender Was Just Raided in Connection With a Money Laundering Investigation
    NOVEMBER 29, 2018

    On Thursday morning, German police raided the Frankfurt headquarters of Deutsche Bank, President Donald Trump’s biggest lender, in connection with a money laundering investigation. The raid focused on an alleged money laundering operation that may have involved as much as $350 million and was exposed with the 2015 release of the Panama Papers—a trove of documents detailing the creation and use of offshore bank accounts. The investigation is the latest in a string of scandals and financial setbacks for the bank, which holds the mortgages on several of Trump’s most prized properties, including his Doral golf resort and his Washington, DC, luxury hotel. Speculation for months has swirled around the possibility that another company could take over the ailing bank—including rumors that the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China, a Chinese state-owned bank, might be interested. This is significant because any entity that controls a large chunk of Trump’s debt holds a certain amount of leverage over him—an unprecedented situation in the history of the US presidency.

    Trump has a long relationship with Deutsche Bank dating back to the early 2000s. At the time, most US banks refused to loan money to Trump following his string of bankruptcies and Atlantic City failures. But Deutsche Bank continued to let him borrow hundreds of millions of dollars—as of his inauguration, Trump owed the German bank as much as $364 million. Once a powerful player in international banking, Deutsche Bank has paid out billions in settlements to both US and European regulators for its role in the 2008 financial crisis and other scandals. When Trump took office, he refused to divest from his company, meaning he continues to owe the bank money—several of the loans are personally guaranteed by the president—even as the Department of Justice has opened new investigations into the bank’s activities.

    In 2017, the bank paid regulators $670 million in fines for its involvement with “mirror trades” in Russia—a complicated scheme to allegedly help wealthy sanctioned Russians move currency out of the country. Deutsche Bank is also embroiled in a scandal involving Danske Bank, a Danish company, which allegedly was involved in laundering billions of dollars from Russia. Danske is under heavy scrutiny from the Justice Department and European regulators, and Deutsche Bank has reportedly been contacted by US investigators for its role in handling some of Danske’s suspect transactions.

    The fines and ongoing controversies have sent Deutsche Bank into a financial tailspin and tanked its stock price, which in turn has raised the possibility of a takeover. In July, Deutsche Bank’s stock briefly rallied after it was reported by the German business press that JPMorgan and the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China were both interested in taking big stakes in the troubled bank. A scenario in which the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China, which is the country’s largest bank, took control of Trump’s mortgages would potentially pose an enormous conflict of interest for Trump, if not a national security threat. That said, the bank is already the single largest tenant in Trump Tower, and its lease is due to expire in October 2019, setting up another major conflict.

    Even as it stands, Deutsche Bank’s ownership is rife with conflict of interest landmines for the president. Currently, Chinese financial giant HNA Group, which has sparred with American regulators, owns 8 percent of the German bank—though it is under pressure to sell that piece. American hedge fund Cerberus Capital—co-founded by Stephen Feinberg, a major Trump donor whom the president appointed to head his intelligence advisory board— owns another 3 percent.
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...investigation/

    DEUTSCHE BANK, TRUMP’S SUGAR DADDY, RAIDED BY POLICE ON SUSPICION OF MONEY LAUNDERING
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018...ney-laundering

    I've maintained all along that money-laundering is Trump's biggest vulnerability and the threat that could send him to jail. The Feds could wait him out, 2020 and his cloak of invisibility disappears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sear View Post
    Clarification:

    If Mueller stretches things out past the two year mark of Trump's 4 year elected term, & is then impeached and removed from office, my sources assert President Pence could then complete the presidential term, & run for president in 2020, and again in 2024.
    Again in 2024 assumes he would win in 2020.

    Wearing the stink of an impeached/removed Trump might make that undoable.

    I would certainly hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sear View Post
    Clarification:

    If Mueller stretches things out past the two year mark of Trump's 4 year elected term, & is then impeached and removed from office, my sources assert President Pence could then complete the presidential term, & run for president in 2020, and again in 2024.
    The word is that Pence is not a certainty for the 2020 ticket.
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