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Thread: There Is Simply Not Enough Revenue. The Deficit Is Too Large. Debt Is Out Of Control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    Anyone who calls Medicare and SS "wasteful entitlements" are working for Russia.
    Yet you call others "conspiracy theorists."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    Yet you call others "conspiracy theorists."
    your shit ideas don't work and cause failure every time you idiots get control


    our ideas have provably worked in the historic record idiot



    you just lying about it doesn't work anymore shit bag


    we have the internets now where everyone go look at the history

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    your shit ideas don't work and cause failure every time you idiots get control


    our ideas have provably worked in the historic record idiot



    you just lying about it doesn't work anymore shit bag


    we have the internets now where everyone go look at the history
    You are crazy, and Jimmy is next in line on the crazy train.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    the funniest part of the right is the days they LONG for and want to go back too are the FDR days

    The 1950s
    FDR was president in the 1950s???

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    Hello Fentoine Lum,

    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    Take down the war machine of the empire, there's plenty of money. The Pentagon still cannot account for $21T it spent between 1998-2015, even after an "audit".

    We chose this state of affairs by being compliant and quiet.
    Wow. That amount of unaccounted for spending would wipe out the debt, right there!

    Imagine how low taxes could be if we didn't have to service the debt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Ever work in a VA facility? I don't remember there being any bars in them.
    I had cancer 22 years ago...and no health insurance. The VA treated me...chemo and radiation. I'm still alive. I been treated for other things at the VA also.

    Yeah...there are lazy people there...BUT THERE ARE LAZY PEOPLE AT EVERY HOSPITAL.

    EVERY!

    And there are dedicated nurses and doctors at the VA also.

    Fact is, most VA doctors do not have you coming back time after time for no reason...as some non-VA doctors do. And many of the non-VA doctors do it only because it produces revenue...not because it is necessary.

    So...I stand by my comment.

    You are full of shit on what you said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    Yet you call others "conspiracy theorists."
    Sandy Hook, yes. Twin Trade Towers, yes. Moon landing, yes, they are all conspiracy theory nonsense. Medicare and SS are necessary and paid for by our taxes.

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    Anybody who is attacking the VA system as out of control or poor are idiots. They rate right up at the top. I have been going since Iraq I, and I have no grief with VA.

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    No, the Pentagon has not spent $21 Trillion they can't account for.

    The military made adjustments to its budgetary reporting system that came to that amount.
    https://media.defense.gov/2016/Jul/2...G-2016-113.pdf
    Read page 5.

    They made adjustments to journal vouchers. This is nothing more than an double entry accounting trick needed when the books don't balance because you haven't entered everything correctly.

    They are guilty of sloppy bookkeeping but not of spending $21 Trillion they can't account for. Errors are sure to happen in a system that large with multiple people entering data.

    Hint: Never rely on any news source if you can find the actual documents.
    "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."

    "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    Sandy Hook, yes. Twin Trade Towers, yes. Moon landing, yes, they are all conspiracy theory nonsense. Medicare and SS are necessary and paid for by our taxes.
    So, only the ones you believe in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    I had cancer 22 years ago...and no health insurance. The VA treated me...chemo and radiation. I'm still alive. I been treated for other things at the VA also.

    Yeah...there are lazy people there...BUT THERE ARE LAZY PEOPLE AT EVERY HOSPITAL.

    EVERY!

    And there are dedicated nurses and doctors at the VA also.

    Fact is, most VA doctors do not have you coming back time after time for no reason...as some non-VA doctors do. And many of the non-VA doctors do it only because it produces revenue...not because it is necessary.

    So...I stand by my comment.

    You are full of shit on what you said.
    So you never worked side by side with them as an independant contractor doing literally three times at minimum the work they do . Got it.
    I agree there are a small minority of them that are dedicated but by and large they're there to get a paycheck . The overwhelming majority, from my experience is that they also have a philosophy that the less they do the less chance of making a mistake, therefore the goal is to do as little as possible without getting in trouble. Problem is, about the only way for them to get in trouble is commit murder.
    Then you have physicians that have the title of 'social director' who spend half their time passing out birthday cards for staff to sign when they're not seeing their 4 patients/day.
    I won't even go into the 'infection control officer'. It gets worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    I had cancer 22 years ago...and no health insurance. The VA treated me...chemo and radiation. I'm still alive. I been treated for other things at the VA also.

    Yeah...there are lazy people there...BUT THERE ARE LAZY PEOPLE AT EVERY HOSPITAL.

    EVERY!

    And there are dedicated nurses and doctors at the VA also.

    Fact is, most VA doctors do not have you coming back time after time for no reason...as some non-VA doctors do. And many of the non-VA doctors do it only because it produces revenue...not because it is necessary.

    So...I stand by my comment.

    You are full of shit on what you said.
    Your post sounds like BS. If you qualify for VA insurance you dont need private health care. You just cant walk into a VA hospital and expect service

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    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    So, only the ones you believe in.
    What a stupid statement.

    You can say the same about the ones in which you believe.

    You suffer way too much on a double standard of evidence and hypothetical facts to make a viable theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Your post sounds like BS. If you qualify for VA insurance you dont need private health care. You just cant walk into a VA hospital and expect service
    I have had VA and private insurance forever. Of course one can, if the private business offers you insurance. You just let your VA know about it.

    I am seeing a lot of stupidity above about VA. It has done me a good job for 27 years in many hospitals and outpatient clinics.

    Those who are knocking are guilty of way too much on a double standard of evidence and hypothetical facts to make a viable theory.

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