Rune (12-09-2018)
SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.
Rune (12-09-2018)
"It [the draft] is duty rather than slavery. I part with the author on the caviler idea that individual freedom (whatever that may be to the person) leads to nirvana, anyone older that 12 knows that is BS."
-(Midcan5)
"Allow me to masturbate my patriotism furiously and publicly at this opportunity."
-(Ib1yysguy)
"There is no 'equal opportunity' today unless the government makes it so."
-(apple0154 )
"abortion is not killing Its birth control"
-(Desh)
Tranquillus in Exile (12-09-2018)
I think that is what they did when they formed the EU.
Do you think Wales, Scotland or England would be a more formidable Entity in the Modern Global World as individual Countries?
How about Kansas, Alabama, or New Jersey?
Whether you like it or not, we are in a Global World, a Global Village.
Rune (12-09-2018)
Minister of Truth (12-08-2018)
The US was formed by all the states within our borders and a couple outside of them; whereas the EU is trying to take numerous CONTRIES and hoping the different Governments will surrender their individuality.
It seems like some of those Countries have decided that they don't want to surrender that individuality.
SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.
Rune (12-09-2018)
The only 'Borders' were Colonial Borders between the different Colonies. They surrendered their autonomy to create a larger Union of the various colonies.
European States are unions of various little Kingdoms that came together. They are way ahead of the US in knowing how to 'Unificate'.
Would you have a meltdown if Canada and the US became a unified Country one day?
The EU Countries can decide if they want to secede or not, looks like Britain decided to exit, we'll see how that turns out.
Are you saying that a "colony" equates to Countries that already had their own Government, laws, money, etc, and had been independent for 100s of years; because your inference that they were "little Kingdoms" is amusing?
It's looking like GB may not be the last "EU Country" to reclaim their individuality and you're correct; because we will see.
SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.
Rune (12-09-2018)
Here's what a true Socialist thought of the EU, sadly Tony Benn is no longer with us or he'd certainly have been speaking out vociferously for Brexit.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal...rdon-brown-spt
"When the United States announced its independence from Great Britain in 1776, Central Europe was a fragmented area of roughly 300 sovereign, independent states (kingdoms, duchies, principalities, free cities, etc.). The German states were bound together in a loose political entity known as the Holy Roman Empire, which dated to the era of Charlemagne in the 800s. By the late eighteenth century, the Holy Roman Empire was, as Voltaire remarked, “Neither holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire.”
https://history.state.gov/countries/...an-unification
In my view, Europe as a whole is better than Europe as a group of fragmented and disorganized entities.
"It [the draft] is duty rather than slavery. I part with the author on the caviler idea that individual freedom (whatever that may be to the person) leads to nirvana, anyone older that 12 knows that is BS."
-(Midcan5)
"Allow me to masturbate my patriotism furiously and publicly at this opportunity."
-(Ib1yysguy)
"There is no 'equal opportunity' today unless the government makes it so."
-(apple0154 )
"abortion is not killing Its birth control"
-(Desh)
Rune (12-09-2018), Tranquillus in Exile (12-09-2018)
Jack (12-09-2018), Rune (12-09-2018), USFREEDOM911 (12-09-2018)
Nationalism"Globalism " Bd #2
Reductio ad absurdum:
Why be an employee, earning $money for someone else, when you can employ yourself, and earn your own money for yourself?
Follow your argument to its extreme conclusion, and we each end up cudgel-wielding barbarians, clawing out subsistence survival from the wilderness.
There's another name for industry, for economics, for banking, for profit-making organizations, for the U.S. military, and even (believe it or not) congress. That alternate name is "team work".
And for anyone that wishes to assert that we're better off as individuals than we are as a team, I recommend that you immediately implement a NASA grade space program and fly yourself to the moon.
We did it together. It's already done!
If you think we're better off on our own, then you do that. Then we can talk.
"It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18
Thanks.
My point to USF is that the EU is better as a 'united Europe' rather than a bunch of fragmented small countries.
Authoritarian countries like China, Russia, and the Middle East region are GAINING Power, while historic 'Western Civilization' countries (those that embrace Democracy and Freedom and Liberty) are in a holding pattern.
Tranquillus in Exile (12-09-2018)
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