Lightbringer (12-16-2018)
its a shame this thread has no topic.......it has lots of posters.......
Lightbringer (12-16-2018)
Which is a violation of the APP rules and by all rights this thread should be locked and the OP suspended from APP. One of the rules here is "no thread derailment: stay on topic" which leaves one to infer that a topic is necessary for each thread and "Hang-out/shooting the bull" threads or personal announcement threads such as you find in the War Zone or in Off-Topic aren't allowed here.
Don't be afraid to see what you see
anonymoose (12-18-2018)
Hello montgomery,
It is logical to expect that most will observe the rules, but there will also be some violations. Which is why I have been wondering how this increased demand for moderation is going to affect the staff, and hence the site. And I am perplexed why you think it is just going to happen automatically, or simply refuse to consider the consequences of your actions:
And I suspect otherwise.
How is that not going to make any extra work for mods?
Aggressive use of the Ignore Feature completely eliminates online abuse, and doesn't create ANY extra demand for active moderation.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
All I can say and need to say Poli, is that we've just won the fight for a section of the forum where the usual bad actors are going to have to behave. Will they stay and get into decent conversations with us? Or will they leave? Should anybody care? Blahahahahahahahahahaha!
Bringing reform and decency from Canada, one forum at a time.
Hello montgomery,
I don't know why anyone here would NOT care. The mods are volunteers. They do the work that makes this place function. Creating extra work for them impacts the situation. I think we have a good thing here at JPP just the way it is. I wouldn't want to see it all melt down.
It is perfectly possible to have a rewarding posting experience with self-moderation that doesn't create mod work.
I guess I just don't understand the objection to using a PIP.
Some kind of made-up stigma, it seems.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
I hear you and I disagree. I'm suggesting that the moderators actually do some work at moderating the forum. And fwiw, bluedream is doing quite a bit already by paying close attention to the APP section by adding his comments and paying attention to my comments too. I think it's leading to producing a spirit of cooperation that doesn't exist elsewhere on this forum.
Anything more is privileged between bluedream and me for now.
Bringing reform and decency from Canada, one forum at a time.
Hello montgomery,
I am all for civil discourse. I would like it if APP was the main section, and the no-rules nastiness areas were for those who could not fit in at APP. If bluedream is onboard with the increased demands for moderation, I'm glad to hear that. I lend my support to APP for that reason.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
the title of this thread is there for everybody to see and the intent when posting the thread was to have a discussion on the title of the thread. I interpret that as allowing a discussion as it applies to the title.
If anybody has a different interpretation of what should and should not be discussed here on this thread then make that clear to one of the mods in the form of a complaint.
The spamming nonsense is getting over the top now and it's mostly because some members can't get it through their heads that this section of the forum is not for that purpose. STOP IT1
Bringing reform and decency from Canada, one forum at a time.
Bringing reform and decency from Canada, one forum at a time.
Controlled Opposition (12-18-2018)
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