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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    YOu are simply arguing from arrogant ignorance. I pointed out clearances I've held to demonstrate I am an expert in the matter.







    yes, on official gov documents the (C) always denotes "confidential" in classified documents, I would say this under oath.


    I literally gave you proof of this, did you not click my .gov links?


    https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a340216.pdf

    Right there, start on page 16. I gave you in the post you replied to, that which you claimed I have not. If you don't acknowledge this, I will end the conversation and write you off as a mindless nut.
    trying to convince people on a message board about your clearances?
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    trying to convince people on a message board about your clearances?



    Nope. Don't care if you believe me or not. I've clearly demonstrated a mastery of the subject without noting my background.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    My drug use?


    let me ask you. Is it or is it not a felony to keep and store classified information on a personal server?


    18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material



    Now be a good liberal, avoid a direct answer of this question and pretend all is well.

    You are just another uneducated knuckle dragger... https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallp...ls-and-the-law

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    You are just another uneducated knuckle dragger... https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallp...ls-and-the-law



    Shocked, you didn't answer the question. ARe you always this much of a beta cunt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Shocked, you didn't answer the question. ARe you always this much of a beta cunt?

    actually I did, Like I said your drug use is getting in the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    actually I did, Like I said your drug use is getting in the way.



    So is it a felony or not?


    dumb dumb, it's a simple question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So is it a felony or not?


    dumb dumb, it's a simple question.
    Whether it is or it isn't...

    ...you have now gotten into Alice in Wonderland level of fantasy, Rev.

    You are actually suggesting that the GOD conspired to see that HILLARY CLINTON not be prosecuted.

    Jesus H. Christ...does that not awaken YOU to the fact that you are WAY off base here?

    Trey Gowdy, Devin Nunes, Kevin McCarthy, Jim Jordan, and Mark Meadows...conspiring to see that Hillary Clinton NOT BE PROSECUTED!

    That is insanity, Rev.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Whether it is or it isn't...

    ...you have now gotten into Alice in Wonderland level of fantasy, Rev.

    You are actually suggesting that the GOD conspired to see that HILLARY CLINTON not be prosecuted.

    Jesus H. Christ...does that not awaken YOU to the fact that you are WAY off base here?

    Trey Gowdy, Devin Nunes, Kevin McCarthy, Jim Jordan, and Mark Meadows...conspiring to see that Hillary Clinton NOT BE PROSECUTED!

    That is insanity, Rev.




    Insanity is your reply, "god" what? buahaahhahaaaaa....




    IS it a felony or not? you still haven't answered the question.


    could you set up a private server and keep and store classified information on it? yes or no.,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Insanity is your reply, "god" what? buahaahhahaaaaa....




    IS it a felony or not? you still haven't answered the question.
    I did answer your question, Rev.

    I clearly said that I do not know. I am not a lawyer...and I do not know all the statutes that go into a determination of that sort.

    Did you mean that I did not answer the question the way you wanted?




    could you set up a private server and keep and store classified information on it? yes or no.,
    Fuck no. I do not have access to classified information...and I could no more set up a private server than I could build a jet plane.

    Why do you ask such a question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    I did answer your question, Rev.

    I clearly said that I do not know. I am not a lawyer...and I do not know all the statutes that go into a determination of that sort.

    Did you mean that I did not answer the question the way you wanted?

    SO you are saying you can't figure out if keeping and storing classified materials on an unsecure private system is illegal or not because you are not a lawyer?


    The law is clear. Do you need a lawyer to tell you stealing is a crime?






    Fuck no. I do not have access to classified information...and I could no more set up a private server than I could build a jet plane.

    Why do you ask such a question?


    If you did, work with me here. if you were a private contractor, who had access to classified information, could you keep and store classified information on your private unsecure server?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So is it a felony or not?


    dumb dumb, it's a simple question.

    I figured this would happen. You not understand what the article says is expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    LEt me ask you, is it legal or illegal to keep and store classified information on a NONSECURE server outside of a SCIF?


    You asked, and I gave you law, and evidence. Can you not dispute the facts?
    No, you gave allegations as evidence, and in any court of law an allegation is not evidence unless supportive proof is given to support the allegation.

    Now, why haven't your cowardly Repugnant charged her, or is it more politically expedient for them just to keep the allegations hanging out there for fools like you, and their Russian counterparts, to use..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post


    If you did, work with me here. if you were a private contractor, who had access to classified information, could you keep and store classified information on your private unsecure server?
    How did a private contractor gain access to classified information?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    SO you are saying you can't figure out if keeping and storing classified materials on an unsecure private system is illegal or not because you are not a lawyer?
    Yes.

    The law is clear.
    No, the law is not clear on this question. And my answer of "I do not know"...makes a hell of a lot more sense than your answer of, "I know better than all of them, she is guilty of a felony."


    Do you need a lawyer to tell you stealing is a crime?
    No.

    But there are other possible offenses that I am not sure of...and the one you asked me about is one of them.





    If you did, work with me here. if you were a private contractor, who had access to classified information, could you keep and store classified information on your private unsecure server?
    SPECIFICALLY...what part of "I do not know" do you not understand?

    I am sure you understand that the word "I"...means me, Frank Apisa...the guy with whom you are having this discussion.

    The phrase "do not know" is something even a grammar schooler would understand.

    I do not fucking know.

    Maybe that phrasing makes it clearer.

    But as for what Hillary Clinton did...

    ...IT IS MY OPINION (ONLY AN OPINION)...that if any of these assholes in the Republican Party thought for one instant that they could get ANY charge to stick...they would have brought the charge immediately...certainly by this time.

    And I think anyone who cannot see that CLEARLY...is a fucking moron.

    Okay?

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    We don't jail presidents. Even Nixon was pardoned by Ford. We find a way to keep them out of jail. Trump is a crook from New Youk, to Russia and Cyprus. He even cheated on a New York Charity. But I don't think he will wind up in jail. Rich people almost never serve time. Madoff made the mistake of cheating rich people.Bannon said trumps biggest problem is money laundering. Trump can be found guilty of that and will not serve.

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