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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    The "asylum seekers" are a distraction. Most people aren't stupid and they know they can get in here legally with a $160 guest visa and a bus ticket to TJ.
    are we going to do this again?
    there were about 51k arrests t the border for illegal immigration last month.It;s uncheck mass migration

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    are we going to do this again?
    there were about 51k arrests t the border for illegal immigration last month.It;s uncheck mass migration
    Yes we're going to do this again. People who cross with a visa aren't arrested at the border. The wall is a bad idea.
    Don't be afraid to see what you see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    Yes we're going to do this again. People who cross with a visa aren't arrested at the border. The wall is a bad idea.
    VISA can be controlled. people are IDentified. if you have no problem with disease carriers,at least some gang members and nobody knows anything about them...OK fine...there really isn't much I can say

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    Yes we're going to do this again. People who cross with a visa aren't arrested at the border. The wall is a bad idea.
    I can unequivocally prove you are wrong. Virtually all Democrats are against the wall. That proves it's a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    That is patently false and you know it, unless you're just showing your ignorance.
    No, you are just patently ignorant as usual:

    https://www.vox.com/2018/4/13/172290...ants-pay-taxes

    The best estimates come from research by the Institute of Taxation and Economic Policy, a Washington, DC, think tank, which suggests that about half of undocumented workers in the United States file income tax returns. The most recent IRS data, from 2015, shows that the agency received 4.4 million income tax returns from workers who don’t have Social Security numbers, which includes a large number of undocumented immigrants. That year, they paid $23.6 billion in income taxes.

    Those undocumented workers paid taxes for benefits they can’t even use, like Social Security and Medicare. They also aren’t eligible for benefits like the earned income tax credit. But the IRS still expects unauthorized immigrants to file their taxes, and many of them do so.

    Filing taxes helps immigrants create a paper trail to show when they entered the country and how long they’ve been contributing tax dollars. Many are hoping it will help them get legal status one day. That has happened in past reform efforts, and one of the first requirements is usually to prove that a person has been paying taxes. That was the case for the undocumented youth granted temporary work permits under President Obama’s deportation relief program, known as DACA.

    https://immigration.procon.org/view....stionID=000789
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    I can unequivocally prove you are wrong. Virtually all Democrats are against the wall. That proves it's a good idea.
    Can't argue with that. Dems are kinda dumb.
    Don't be afraid to see what you see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    No, you are just patently ignorant as usual:

    https://www.vox.com/2018/4/13/172290...ants-pay-taxes

    The best estimates come from research by the Institute of Taxation and Economic Policy, a Washington, DC, think tank, which suggests that about half of undocumented workers in the United States file income tax returns. The most recent IRS data, from 2015, shows that the agency received 4.4 million income tax returns from workers who don’t have Social Security numbers, which includes a large number of undocumented immigrants. That year, they paid $23.6 billion in income taxes.

    Those undocumented workers paid taxes for benefits they can’t even use, like Social Security and Medicare. They also aren’t eligible for benefits like the earned income tax credit. But the IRS still expects unauthorized immigrants to file their taxes, and many of them do so.

    Filing taxes helps immigrants create a paper trail to show when they entered the country and how long they’ve been contributing tax dollars. Many are hoping it will help them get legal status one day. That has happened in past reform efforts, and one of the first requirements is usually to prove that a person has been paying taxes. That was the case for the undocumented youth granted temporary work permits under President Obama’s deportation relief program, known as DACA.
    You said "illegals put more into the system than they take out." Then you gave a report describing what they put in, but not what they take out. But I'm the ignorant one, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    VISA can be controlled. people are IDentified. if you have no problem with disease carriers,at least some gang members and nobody knows anything about them...OK fine...there really isn't much I can say
    Really? A dude crosses at TJ and we know where he is three weeks later?
    Don't be afraid to see what you see

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    Instead of being a jerk why don’t you explain yourself. The 2/3 you refer to are here on visas.
    There is a big difference between illegals sneaking across the border and those on record coming into the country on visas.
    You are such an asshole.

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    I always wonder what these weirdoes believe the original 'white' people did when they first came and stole land over there! God ask 'em in, did He?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    I always wonder what these weirdoes believe the original 'white' people did when they first came and stole land over there! God ask 'em in, did He?
    What was stolen? I have all the paperwork (titles, deeds, etc.) to everything I own. Can you provide the same things for the land you say was stolen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkaffen View Post
    Instead of being a jerk why don’t you explain yourself. The 2/3 you refer to are here on visas.
    There is a big difference between illegals sneaking across the border and those on record coming into the country on visas.
    You are such an asshole.

    When those visas expire, the status of those sneaking in and those overstaying is illegal.

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    You are right. The 9/11 terrorist were here on visas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    are we going to do this again?
    there were about 51k arrests t the border for illegal immigration last month.It;s uncheck mass migration

    You say some stupid s*** on these forums but this comment is one of your stupidest. 50000 arrests does not make it unchecked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    You say some stupid s*** on these forums but this comment is one of your stupidest. 50000 arrests does not make it unchecked.
    It seems like border security is working if 50,000 were arrested before they made it into the USA, or am I confused?

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