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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    I love this quote from you OPINION piece.

    "Try to imagine the blowback Republicans would have received if they'd passed a massive tax cut bill, and afterward polls showed that the public's top complaint was that taxes were too high. Republicans would never live it down."

    Fact: They did pass a massive tax cut bill. It lined the pockets of corporations and the wealthy and fucked the middle class. Blowback? Republicans took it in the shorts on the midterms.

    Your boys fucked up on the unending repeal attempts rather than try to improve the ACA. So, whiny little turd, fuck you and your feckless Republican Congress. Now, the adults are in charge of the pursestrings.
    When they hide the link, you know something is up. This dunce has done that since day 1. Probably just another person trolling, or stroking themselves to their opinion. Since this place allows socks, trolls, you name it. There's not much to do, but laugh them off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Fact: They did pass a massive tax cut bill. It lined the pockets of corporations and the wealthy and fucked the middle class.
    Those are outright lies you brain dead partisan hack. You wouldn't know a fact if it slapped you on your thick empty neanderthal skull. All you can do is parrot the brain dead talking points you are fed.

    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Blowback? Republicans took it in the shorts on the midterms.
    Not true at all. While the did lose the House by a small majority, they increased their margin in the house by four seats. Did you proclaim Obama took it in the shorts when he lost far more than Trump could ever hope to lose?

    Of course you didn't; you're a low IQ leftist hypocrite whose only skill is parroting the lame dumb talking points you are fed.

    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Your boys fucked up on the unending repeal attempts rather than try to improve the ACA. So, whiny little turd, fuck you and your feckless Republican Congress. Now, the adults are in charge of the pursestrings.
    Then Obama must have fucked up royally when he passed Obamacare along a straight party line vote and lost 67 house seats and six senate seats right? I do wish you had a brain and weren't such a dishonest dumb fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    BTW, where is that better, and cheaper, healthcare system that the Repugnant ones, and Trump, promised the American people? Why do we still hase the most expensive, and lowest quality, of the developed world? Do the Repugnant ones have a plan yet except for making the insurance companies richer?
    So you are admitting that Obamacare is a massive failure built on a lie. Good for you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apple Lung-Li-Chiao View Post
    When they hide the link, you know something is up. This dunce has done that since day 1. Probably just another person trolling, or stroking themselves to their opinion. Since this place allows socks, trolls, you name it. There's not much to do, but laugh them off.
    I have found that most of these RW morons post shit like this without either reading them or comprehending them. It's not much of a challenge to actually read the bullshit sources and call them on it.

    Low hanging fruit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apple Lung-Li-Chiao View Post
    When they hide the link, you know something is up. This dunce has done that since day 1. Probably just another person trolling, or stroking themselves to their opinion. Since this place allows socks, trolls, you name it. There's not much to do, but laugh them off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apple Lung-Li-Chiao View Post
    When they hide the link, you know something is up. This dunce has done that since day 1. Probably just another person trolling, or stroking themselves to their opinion. Since this place allows socks, trolls, you name it. There's not much to do, but laugh them off.
    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    I have found that most of these RW morons post shit like this without either reading them or comprehending them. It's not much of a challenge to actually read the bullshit sources and call them on it.

    Low hanging fruit.
    PRICELESS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Okay; let's go with that. Show us the data that indicates costs are declining.
    Do you imagine that I argued that costs were declining? If so, reread.

    Let's say, for example, that for years leading up to Obamacare becoming law, per capita health expenditures in the US were rising by 5.5% per year -- a pace well above the average for wealthy nations generally, causing us to pull away from the pack in our healthcare spending. And say that since Obamacare became law, per capita health expenditures here have been rising at 3.25% -- a pace below the average for wealthy nations generally, causing the gap between the US and its international peers to narrow. Wouldn't that be a success, at least on the cost front?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I am always amused when fools think their anecdotal evidence supplants the nation as a whole. Here's one for you; not only did my family lose it's health plan, which was better, but also our doctor. On top of all that, our costs went up. So there is that. Dunce.
    And it was the fault of the INSURANCE COMPANY for changing the specifics of your policy.

    THAT is what I referred to a few posts back.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
    Every single thing we were told about Obama's illegal, trillion-dollar health care takeover was a lie.

    On Health Costs, ObamaCare Was A Massive Failure



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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    BECAUSE the Trump administration continues to narrow the enrollment window each year.

    Each year the GOP finds news ways to restrict enrollment, so NATURALLY enrollment is going to go down.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    PRICELESS!


    Only three pages and once again Truth Rejector is reduced to posting infantile gifs and memes.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    And it was the fault of the INSURANCE COMPANY for changing the specifics of your policy.

    THAT is what I referred to a few posts back.
    You are correct, but most of these Trump people don't know anything about healthcare.. Trump doesn't either.. that's why he said "Who knew healthcare would be so hard?".. Sad really .. Americans could have better healthcare for less money.. Like Australia and the rest of the civilized world if not for these dopes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneuli View Post
    Do you imagine that I argued that costs were declining? If so, reread.

    Let's say, for example, that for years leading up to Obamacare becoming law, per capita health expenditures in the US were rising by 5.5% per year -- a pace well above the average for wealthy nations generally, causing us to pull away from the pack in our healthcare spending. And say that since Obamacare became law, per capita health expenditures here have been rising at 3.25% -- a pace below the average for wealthy nations generally, causing the gap between the US and its international peers to narrow. Wouldn't that be a success, at least on the cost front?
    Dear dishonest dunce; you claimed what would be more relevant. The debate is increasing health care costs. Now stop being your typical dishonest whiny cunt self and show us the road to relevancy. I am waiting.
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