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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Nothing to fear, I did not have my hopes up that we were going to engage in objective discussion, and I certainly did not think you were going to be the first lefty on the forum to be able to differentiate fake racism from real racism.

    I do not expect any lefties here to be able to recognize that there is a difference between fake racism and real racism. Lefties do not have what it takes to vet an example of racism to see if there is evidence to substantiate it.
    6/30/17

    I predict Evmetro will post some babbling piece of bullshit and when people reply to point that out, he will respond with a juvenile “I told you so!”

    Thank you in advance for proving me correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    When talk of real racism that is isolated from fake racism comes up, lefties resist discussing it like a cat resists being shoved into a toilet. Differentiating real racism from fake racism is as scary to lefties as differentiating illegal immigrants from legal ones. No lefty here will be able to talk about the difference between real racism and fake racism, they will only be able to use the fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.
    6/30/17

    I predict Evmetro will post some babbling piece of bullshit and when people reply to point that out, he will respond with a juvenile “I told you so!”

    Thank you in advance for proving me correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    The allegations against DJ and Fred Trump were the ones that were dismissed as allegations. All real estate companies have to promise not to discriminate. The case against Trump was dismissed as allegations.
    Lie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Fake racism is a politically motivated assertion that a political opponent thinks his race is superior to another. Fake racism can not be substantiated with proof, it can only be backed up with assertions, allegations, accusations, propaganda, dismissed cases, association fallacy, or gish gallop.

    Real racism is when somebody believes his race is superior to another. If somebody claims a race is superior to another, there is proof that he is a real racist. If he writes that he believes one race is superior to another, there is proof that he is a racist.
    You're a real racist and I don't need your help in knowing that.

    And the real reason you can't just admit it is because it gets you attention you crave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Nope.. He settled with a huge fine.
    Not unless you can link to the amount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Lie
    It is hereby ORDERED, ADJUDGED and DECREED that in
    consideration of their affirmative assumption of responsibility
    contained in part III herein, the complaint against Fred C.
    Trump and Donald J. Trump is dismissed against them in their
    personal capacity, with prejudice, as to all allegations
    contained therein, and predating this Order.
    The Truth Does Not Need To Be Supported With Censorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montgomery View Post
    You're a real racist and I don't need your help in knowing that.

    And the real reason you can't just admit it is because it gets you attention you crave.
    Fake racism
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    It is hereby ORDERED, ADJUDGED and DECREED that in
    consideration of their affirmative assumption of responsibility
    contained in part III herein, the complaint against Fred C.
    Trump and Donald J. Trump is dismissed against them in their
    personal capacity, with prejudice, as to all allegations
    contained therein, and predating this Order.
    During the presidential debate on Monday night, Hillary Clinton raised a 1973 federal lawsuit brought against Donald Trump and his company for alleged racial discrimination at Trump housing developments in New York.

    The Justice Department sued Donald Trump, his father, Fred, and Trump Management in order to obtain a settlement in which Trump and his father would promise not to discriminate. The case eventually was settled two years later after Trump tried to countersue the Justice Department for $100 million for making false statements. Those allegations were dismissed by the court.

    "Donald started his career, back in 1973, being sued by the Justice Department for racial discrimination — because he would not rent apartments in one of his developments to African-Americans, and he made sure that the people who worked for him understood that was the policy," Clinton said on Monday night.

    Clinton And Trump Clash In Tense First Presidential Debate
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    Clinton And Trump Clash In Tense First Presidential Debate
    Trump responded to Clinton by emphasizing that the case was settled with no admission of guilt.

    "Yes, when I was very young, I went into my father's company — had a real estate company in Brooklyn and Queens," Trump said. "And we, along with many, many other companies throughout the country — it was a federal lawsuit — were sued. We settled the suit with zero, with no admission of guilt."

    The lawsuit was based on evidence gathered by testers for the New York City Human Rights Division, which alleged that black people who went to Trump buildings were told there were no apartments available, while white people were offered units.

    Back then, Sheila Morse worked as one of those testers. When a black New Yorker was turned down for service and racial bias was suspected, Morse, who is white, would be dispatched to see if she received different treatment.

    continued

    https://www.npr.org/2016/09/29/49595...imination-case
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    It is hereby ORDERED, ADJUDGED and DECREED that in
    consideration of their affirmative assumption of responsibility
    contained in part III herein, the complaint against Fred C.
    Trump and Donald J. Trump is dismissed against them in their
    personal capacity, with prejudice, as to all allegations
    contained therein, and predating this Order.
    Your ignorance of consent decrees is noted.

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    FinCEN Fines Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort $10 Million for ...

    Trump Taj Mahal has a long history of prior, repeated BSA violations cited by examiners dating back to 2003. Additionally, in 1998, FinCEN assessed a $477,700 civil money penalty against Trump Taj Mahal for currency transaction reporting violations.

    https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-rel...icant-and-long

    Trump fined $10 million for MONEY LAUNDERING! - change.org

    -Trump Casino fined $10 million in Febrary 2015 over money laundering violations. -Trump's pilot (Joseph Weichselbaum) is a convicted cocaine trafficker. -Trump has been fined for discriminating against the black community.


    https://www.change.org/p/pga-please-...ion/u/11433112
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    During the presidential debate on Monday night, Hillary Clinton raised a 1973 federal lawsuit brought against Donald Trump and his company for alleged racial discrimination at Trump housing developments in New York.

    The Justice Department sued Donald Trump, his father, Fred, and Trump Management in order to obtain a settlement in which Trump and his father would promise not to discriminate. The case eventually was settled two years later after Trump tried to countersue the Justice Department for $100 million for making false statements. Those allegations were dismissed by the court.

    "Donald started his career, back in 1973, being sued by the Justice Department for racial discrimination — because he would not rent apartments in one of his developments to African-Americans, and he made sure that the people who worked for him understood that was the policy," Clinton said on Monday night.

    Clinton And Trump Clash In Tense First Presidential Debate
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    Clinton And Trump Clash In Tense First Presidential Debate
    Trump responded to Clinton by emphasizing that the case was settled with no admission of guilt.

    "Yes, when I was very young, I went into my father's company — had a real estate company in Brooklyn and Queens," Trump said. "And we, along with many, many other companies throughout the country — it was a federal lawsuit — were sued. We settled the suit with zero, with no admission of guilt."

    The lawsuit was based on evidence gathered by testers for the New York City Human Rights Division, which alleged that black people who went to Trump buildings were told there were no apartments available, while white people were offered units.

    Back then, Sheila Morse worked as one of those testers. When a black New Yorker was turned down for service and racial bias was suspected, Morse, who is white, would be dispatched to see if she received different treatment.

    continued

    https://www.npr.org/2016/09/29/49595...imination-case
    It is hereby ORDERED, ADJUDGED and DECREED that in
    consideration of their affirmative assumption of responsibility
    contained in part III herein, the complaint against Fred C.
    Trump and Donald J. Trump is dismissed against them in their
    personal capacity, with prejudice, as to all allegations
    contained therein, and predating this Order.
    The Truth Does Not Need To Be Supported With Censorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    FinCEN Fines Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort $10 Million for ...

    Trump Taj Mahal has a long history of prior, repeated BSA violations cited by examiners dating back to 2003. Additionally, in 1998, FinCEN assessed a $477,700 civil money penalty against Trump Taj Mahal for currency transaction reporting violations.

    https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-rel...icant-and-long

    Trump fined $10 million for MONEY LAUNDERING! - change.org

    -Trump Casino fined $10 million in Febrary 2015 over money laundering violations. -Trump's pilot (Joseph Weichselbaum) is a convicted cocaine trafficker. -Trump has been fined for discriminating against the black community.


    https://www.change.org/p/pga-please-...ion/u/11433112
    Wrong thread. This thread is about racism. Specifically real racism vs fake racism, which is why the lefties have scattered like cock roaches when the light is turned on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    During the presidential debate on Monday night, Hillary Clinton raised a 1973 federal lawsuit brought against Donald Trump and his company for alleged racial discrimination at Trump housing developments in New York.

    The Justice Department sued Donald Trump, his father, Fred, and Trump Management in order to obtain a settlement in which Trump and his father would promise not to discriminate. The case eventually was settled two years later after Trump tried to countersue the Justice Department for $100 million for making false statements. Those allegations were dismissed by the court.

    "Donald started his career, back in 1973, being sued by the Justice Department for racial discrimination — because he would not rent apartments in one of his developments to African-Americans, and he made sure that the people who worked for him understood that was the policy," Clinton said on Monday night.

    Clinton And Trump Clash In Tense First Presidential Debate
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    Clinton And Trump Clash In Tense First Presidential Debate
    Trump responded to Clinton by emphasizing that the case was settled with no admission of guilt.

    "Yes, when I was very young, I went into my father's company — had a real estate company in Brooklyn and Queens," Trump said. "And we, along with many, many other companies throughout the country — it was a federal lawsuit — were sued. We settled the suit with zero, with no admission of guilt."

    The lawsuit was based on evidence gathered by testers for the New York City Human Rights Division, which alleged that black people who went to Trump buildings were told there were no apartments available, while white people were offered units.

    Back then, Sheila Morse worked as one of those testers. When a black New Yorker was turned down for service and racial bias was suspected, Morse, who is white, would be dispatched to see if she received different treatment.

    continued

    https://www.npr.org/2016/09/29/49595...imination-case
    I don't know why you bother to talk straight with our racists, there's nothing that will convince them or impress them. And they all know very well that Trump is a racist and they love it. No medium intelligence person would be fooled to think otherwise!

    The only thing we succeed in doing by taking part in their racism threads is feeding them the attention they crave. Maybe a different apporach we can try is to begin with those like Evmetro and subtly hint that they're not as 'full on' racist as CFM for instance. After all, his only mission is to prove himself.

    But how the Fed case of 73 pales in relation to Trump's birtherism hate speeches, but yet it's become acceptable enough in America to allow him to get away with it. Clearly any other first world country would immediately label it hate speech and the people would second it.

    The point is, you're not going to get through to them with appeals to be decent people. They want to be seen and heard as being indecent and vile racists. Sadly, it's most of the right that has bought into racism, but there may be exceptions. This forum wouldn't be a place to look for an exception.

    The real birtherism is, Obama's influence on their minds brought on the filth that came to be known as the baggers, then that movement and the seething hate in their hearts for the presumptious black man as president, brought on the psychopathic anomaly which is Trump.

    The world is watching and it's moving away from the US because of him. You people need to fix the problem!
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    Quote Originally Posted by montgomery View Post
    I don't know why you bother to talk straight with our racists, there's nothing that will convince them or impress them. And they all know very well that Trump is a racist and they love it. No medium intelligence person would be fooled to think otherwise!

    The only thing we succeed in doing by taking part in their racism threads is feeding them the attention they crave. Maybe a different apporach we can try is to begin with those like Evmetro and subtly hint that they're not as 'full on' racist as CFM for instance. After all, his only mission is to prove himself.

    But how the Fed case of 73 pales in relation to Trump's birtherism hate speeches, but yet it's become acceptable enough in America to allow him to get away with it. Clearly any other first world country would immediately label it hate speech and the people would second it.

    The point is, you're not going to get through to them with appeals to be decent people. They want to be seen and heard as being indecent and vile racists. Sadly, it's most of the right that has bought into racism, but there may be exceptions. This forum wouldn't be a place to look for an exception.

    The real birtherism is, Obama's influence on their minds brought on the filth that came to be known as the baggers, then that movement and the seething hate in their hearts for the presumptious black man as president, brought on the psychopathic anomaly which is Trump.

    The world is watching and it's moving away from the US because of him. You people need to fix the problem!

    Birthers can't help it anymore than Trump can.. They are too stupid to read and understand the statutes and too ignorant to know anything about US Customs and Immigration or US Passports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Birthers can't help it anymore than Trump can.. They are too stupid to read and understand the statutes and too ignorant to know anything about US Customs and Immigration or US Passports.
    Yes, but my point is that they wear their 'birtherism' like a badge of honour. They all want to be known as racists and they make that perfectly clear every time they open their cakeholes. Yet they take great pleasure in stringing decent people along by denying. I think all of our interactions with the trailer trash calls for us to keep that in mind. A subtle suggestion that they're not racist enough to be allowed into Klan meetings is something that would cause them loss of sleep.

    We're winning on this forum and the momentum isn't going to be stopped. And I think the staff I've talked to are appreciating our efforts to keep it sane and civil. Even 'I Love America' is sputtering out as he continues to froth at the mouth.
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