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    Default Magical thinking.

    You have probably heard some atheist claim that believing in a Creator is magical thing.
    So, what do atheists believe?
    Atheists believe that NO ONE created EVERYTHING from NOTHING.
    I don't know about you, but that seems pretty magical to me.

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    American society floats upon magical thinking, there's no disconnect at all, choose your illusion.

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    Anyone is free to blindly guess that a god exists (or that several gods) exist...just as anyone is free to blindly guess that no gods exist.

    One of those guesses is probably right. I say "probably right" because the true nature of existence may be so complicated that either YES or NO on the question may not be the only options.

    In any case, it seems to me that just acknowledging that none of us KNOWS for sure is the more ethical way to deal with the issue.

    TWO THINGS:

    ONE: I realize that some people who blindly guess there is at least one god...are going to insist that they KNOW there is at least one god...and that some people who blindly guess there are no gods...are going to insist that they KNOW there are no gods.

    The people in both those groups are full of shit.

    TWO: Many of the people making those blind guesses (in both directions) are going to refer to their blind guesses as "beliefs."

    Okay...if you have to call your blind guesses "beliefs"...nothing in law to stop you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    You have probably heard some atheist claim that believing in a Creator is magical thing.
    So, what do atheists believe?
    Atheists believe that NO ONE created EVERYTHING from NOTHING.
    I don't know about you, but that seems pretty magical to me.
    We are all stuck here however that happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    We are all stuck here however that happened.
    True enough. But one belief, if true, leads to eternal life. The other to eternal suffering. Just how sure are you that there is no God? It's not the kind of question you want to leave unanswered. There is a lot riding on it. Like, everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    You have probably heard some atheist claim that believing in a Creator is magical thing.
    So, what do atheists believe?
    Atheists believe that NO ONE created EVERYTHING from NOTHING.
    I don't know about you, but that seems pretty magical to me.
    You're lying. I'm an atheist, and do not believe that.
    If you believe that man is good, there is no need for government. If you believe that man is bad, you dare not create one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    You have probably heard some atheist claim that believing in a Creator is magical thing.
    So, what do atheists believe?
    Atheists believe that NO ONE created EVERYTHING from NOTHING.
    I don't know about you, but that seems pretty magical to me.

    Every society had a creation story to answer the question "where did we come from".. Don't take it literally.. Genesis wasn't intended as science or history..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    We are all stuck here however that happened.
    Unlil trumpf finishes us all off, I suppose. Do the holy ones believe a god created that thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    True enough. But one belief, if true, leads to eternal life. The other to eternal suffering. Just how sure are you that there is no God? It's not the kind of question you want to leave unanswered. There is a lot riding on it. Like, everything.
    Well the Bible says we get a do over lightening round if we get it wrong on Round 1.

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    Listening to Grugore approaches eternal suffering.

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    How can any sane person pretend to WORSHIP a god that will punish someone for disobeying by torturing them for all the rest of eternity???

    That is like a parent punishing a child for disobeying by using a chainsaw on his face!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    Unlil trumpf finishes us all off, I suppose. Do the holy ones believe a god created that thing?
    The Bible indicates all governments exist due to God's will that establishes them. Now render into Caesar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    How can any sane person pretend to WORSHIP a god that will punish someone for disobeying by torturing them for all the rest of eternity???

    That is like a parent punishing a child for disobeying by using a chainsaw on his face!
    The Jehovah Witnesses see it differently....and seem to have a lot more Biblical support than say the fire and brimstone Baptists, but whatever. People should do what works for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    You have probably heard some atheist claim that believing in a Creator is magical thing.
    So, what do atheists believe?
    Atheists believe that NO ONE created EVERYTHING from NOTHING.
    I don't know about you, but that seems pretty magical to me.
    it is just the nature of what exists

    who created god

    your own theory has the same problem IF you insist its a problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    You have probably heard some atheist claim that believing in a Creator is magical thing.
    So, what do atheists believe?
    Atheists believe that NO ONE created EVERYTHING from NOTHING.
    I don't know about you, but that seems pretty magical to me.
    shit happens.......that's why they think the earth is shit......

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