Divide States to Democratize the Senate

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The population centers DO NOT get more representation in the House...not on a per capita basis.

Stop with that nonsense.

Plus the Senate has more power just by the mere fact that they only run every six years makes them more entrenched

[anatta]

The population centers DO NOT get more representation in the House...not on a per capita basis.

Stop with that nonsense.

they get more seats.
per capita doesn't matter in that the the House represents the population , the Senate represents the states.

It's also the same formula for the electoral college - both the states and the people are accounted for

[Boris The Animal]

True, I'd suppose the point of the post was just to batter it about

And DC plus PR ought to be given that option, but that ain't going to alter the reality that down the road rural areas with sparse populations will grossly over represented while metropolitan centers will be consequently underrepresented

As it should be. Urban shitholes shouldn't have any say in the country's agenda.

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they get more seats.
per capita doesn't matter in that the the House represents the population , the Senate represents the states.

It's also the same formula for the electoral college - both the states and the people are accounted for

That's not true, Wyoming, with a population of 563,767, gets three electoral votes, which works out to something like 188,000 citizens per electoral vote. A State as California has 39,776,830 people yet has only fifty five electoral votes, roughly close to 700,000 Californians for each electoral vote. And there are four other red states in Wyoming's position

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As it should be. Urban shitholes shouldn't have any say in the country's agenda.

Did you think America was built on the likes of Schulenburg, Texas?

[Boris The Animal]

Did you think America was built on the likes of Schulenburg, Texas?

Absolutely. Urbanism didn't start until the Industrial revolution.

[tsuke]

i like that when republicans lose elections they try different things even if its to totally obstruct obama to get the voters to choose them next time.

when the democrats lose elections (like they did in the senate in the midterms) its the systems fault and it must be changed.

lol?

[Frank Apisa]

they get more seats.
per capita doesn't matter in that the the House represents the population , the Senate represents the states.

It's also the same formula for the electoral college - both the states and the people are accounted for

Yeah...they get more seats.

But the people of low population states (like Wyoming) get MORE REPRESENTATION.

The state of New Jersey is an urban area. We have 9,000,000...and have 12 representatives in the House...or 1 Representative for every 750.000.

Wyoming has 580,000 people and 1 Representative.

If New Jersey has 1 Representative for ever 580,000 we'd have 15 or 16 Representatives.

The low population states get extra voting power...no matter what.

By the way...THE PEOPLE are what count. "The states" are nothing but areas of land.

[jimmymccready]

Silly argument.

The House will stay blue from now on, and the Senate will follow in four to six years.

[Boris The Animal]

Silly argument.

The House will stay blue from now on, and the Senate will follow in four to six years.

Bullshit! America does not want one party Dumbshitocrat rule like you do, Communist.

[Boris The Animal]

The real aim of the Left is to shut out Conservatives.

[jimmymccready]

The responsible right to responsible left, Boris, is to shut out the anti-American agenda of the far right and Trumpers.

[Anarchon]

There is no other way...without a constitutional amendment.

Larger population states HAVE GOT TO SPLIT...or smaller population states must be amalgamated.

Here in New Jersey...the North and South are like different states already. We even root for different sports teams.

New Jersey could easily divide into THREE states...North Jersey, Middle Jersey and South Jersey...each with about 3,000,000 people.

The costs would be enormous. The idea of three state legislatures sucks.

But if several of the large states declare intentions of doing so...it might bring the others to consciousness. Maybe it could set the stage for a Constitutional amendment getting the Senate into greater population parity.

Making the Electoral College more equitable is a much easier thing to do.

You're being extremely comfortable with the feds telling states what they must do. Damn, shit did really go downhill after the War of Northern Aggression.

[Frank Apisa]

You're being extremely comfortable with the feds telling states what they must do.

Get your head out of your ass. Where did I say anything in that quoted material about feds telling states what they must do???

Damn, shit did really go downhill after the War of Northern Aggression.

Do you mean the war where the Union beat the shit out of the traitorous southern states?

Is that what it is called down there?

[anatta]

Yeah...they get more seats.

But the people of low population states (like Wyoming) get MORE REPRESENTATION.

The state of New Jersey is an urban area. We have 9,000,000...and have 12 representatives in the House...or 1 Representative for every 750.000.

Wyoming has 580,000 people and 1 Representative.

If New Jersey has 1 Representative for ever 580,000 we'd have 15 or 16 Representatives.

The low population states get extra voting power...no matter what.

By the way...THE PEOPLE are what count. "The states" are nothing but areas of land.

incorrect. Both the states themselves as sovereign entities and the people are represented in both Congress and the EC.
Wyoming is an outlier - a minimum representation -you cant do less then 1.

"3 New Jerseys" is absolutely terrifying