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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Lucky thing my 401k is in international funds
    You don't think the Dow will bring down international markets? That's naive and dumb isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I wonder why that is all you lying liberal snowflakes can talk about anymore? What happened to Russian Collusion? Or Avenatti? Kavanaugh? Stormy?

    What happened to Benghazi and .... ironically, private email and Cell Phones ?

    Opps ... I bet you didn't see that one coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    gee you mean all those tax cuts didn't work?

    The Tax Cuts where never for Morons like them in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Needed? Why. Been artificially inflated for 8 years.
    Fixed that for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    What happened to Benghazi and .... ironically, private email and Cell Phones ?

    Opps ... I bet you didn't see that one coming.
    You don't know what happened? You don't know a lot do you snowflake?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    The Tax Cuts where never for Morons like them in the first place.
    You think the tax cuts were just for morons like you?
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    The U.S. has lost the ability to control the stock market. Trump has forced China's hand to take the wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    You don't think the Dow will bring down international markets? That's naive and dumb isn't it?
    The Dow could. It won't, at least not to the same depths as the dow will go. It is all rather academic. It will be over 3 decades before I get that money. I am sure it will recover in that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    so why didnt trumpy fix it before it happened?
    I wish there was a way to fix your lunacy and asinine posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by montgomery View Post
    The U.S. has lost the ability to control the stock market. Trump has forced China's hand to take the wheel.
    Another painfully stupid claim. Do you know who really controls the Chinese market? The US. They hold a large amount of our debt in order to prop up their currency. They allow the exploitation of their people and environment to prop up their factories that produce the cheap crap Western markets demand.

    Without us, they will collapse. Europe would collapse. Those who stupidly cheer when our markets drop or correct are partisan morons who don't have the slightest clue how the real world operates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Another painfully stupid claim. Do you know who really controls the Chinese market? The US. They hold a large amount of our debt in order to prop up their currency. They allow the exploitation of their people and environment to prop up their factories that produce the cheap crap Western markets demand.

    Without us, they will collapse. Europe would collapse. Those who stupidly cheer when our markets drop or correct are partisan morons who don't have the slightest clue how the real world operates.
    You've read a lot more into what I said than what it actually meant. I'm not cheering the collapse of the Dow at all. Nor do I see any collapse coming. I just see it adjusting down to realistic levels because of the U.S's loss of control.

    You're right about the US having a lot of control over China's market, but I think you're failing to understand that the reverse is just as true. So pay attention for a change: China's black market goods has grown to the point at which it's become close to equal US markets in many commodities. Compalints are regulary lodged with China to get it under control and China responds positively to those complaints. And then does nothing. For example, it's now estimated that China's forgeries of Microsoft at least equals Microsoft itself. And that's just one example.

    Trump's sanctions against China are totally ineffective. China Inc. written by Fishman in 06 is a little out of date but still applicable. There may be something newer but that book may be the last truthful analysis. Then get back to me when you know what you're talking about and it's not all biased US flagwaving bullshit to make yourselves feel good.

    Or if you don't want to learn, just continue to shoot your ignorant mouth off. I'm all for the conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Fixed that for you.
    No you did not. We should have cranked up fed rate earlier and higher. In another crash, we don't have tools to fight it now.

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    BEts on the close for today?

    I'm going with 550 down. But 600 wouldn't be a surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montgomery View Post
    You've read a lot more into what I said than what it actually meant. I'm not cheering the collapse of the Dow at all. Nor do I see any collapse coming. I just see it adjusting down to realistic levels because of the U.S's loss of control.

    You're right about the US having a lot of control over China's market, but I think you're failing to understand that the reverse is just as true. So pay attention for a change: China's black market goods has grown to the point at which it's become close to equal US markets in many commodities. Compalints are regulary lodged with China to get it under control and China responds positively to those complaints. And then does nothing. For example, it's now estimated that China's forgeries of Microsoft at least equals Microsoft itself. And that's just one example.
    Once again; your claim: "The U.S. has lost the ability to control the stock market. Trump has forced China's hand to take the wheel."

    My response is that WE, the USA, dictate the Chinese markets. The Government doesn't control our markets. It merely sets rules to ensure that markets are fair and not rife with criminal enterprise and fraud.


    Quote Originally Posted by montgomery View Post
    Trump's sanctions against China are totally ineffective. China Inc. written by Fishman in 06 is a little out of date but still applicable. There may be something newer but that book may be the last truthful analysis. Then get back to me when you know what you're talking about and it's not all biased US flagwaving bullshit to make yourselves feel good.
    How do I make this simple? The US economy would do just fine without cheap Chinese goods. How would the Chinese economy do without US buyers?

    Quote Originally Posted by montgomery View Post
    Or if you don't want to learn, just continue to shoot your ignorant mouth off. I'm all for the conversation.
    Silly me; why didn't you say you just wanted to hear yourself bloviate? Dunce.
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