Wash. police chief says he won't enforce new gun law

[volsrock]

https://www.policeone.com/chiefs-she...d=%5Bcub_id%5D


Wat say u Libs?

U have to support this!

[domer76]

https://www.policeone.com/chiefs-she...d=%5Bcub_id%5D


Wat say u Libs?

U have to support this!

It's obvious he doesn't have a clue regarding the 2nd Amendment. Not surprising. A pissant redneck police chief in a pissant redneck version of Mayberry.

His utter stupidity is obvious from this statement:

And as for having five days to report a stolen gun, he says, “So now you have to check your safe every five days to make sure it’s not been broken into, and make the inventory of guns is still correct? It’s ridiculous.”

It appears HE'S too stupid to carry a gun. Give old Barney Fife there one bullet so he doesn't hurt too many people.

We'll see what action the state's AG takes.

[sear]

"And as for having five days to report a stolen gun, he says, “So now you have to check your safe every five days to make sure it’s not been broken into, and make the inventory of guns is still correct? It’s ridiculous.” d7 #2

I deduce d7 #2 interprets these words not on literal meaning, but on basis of some deeply ingrained emotional aversion.

I haven't read the text of the law.
But I give the COP benefit of doubt. If the law says gun owners are REQUIRED to report gun theft within 5 days, and failure to do so is a crime, and a gun owner doesn't notice the gun theft until after the deadline, that law makes that otherwise law abiding citizen a criminal.
Dislike it all you like.

IF that's the meaning of the law, the COP is right.

BUT !!

In practical terms, I would hope most gun owners secure their weapons in such way that their theft would be swiftly detected.

[domer76]

I deduce d7 #2 interprets these words not on literal meaning, but on basis of some deeply ingrained emotional aversion.

I haven't read the text of the law.
But I give the COP benefit of doubt. If the law says gun owners are REQUIRED to report gun theft within 5 days, and failure to do so is a crime, and a gun owner doesn't notice the gun theft until after the deadline, that law makes that otherwise law abiding citizen a criminal.
Dislike it all you like.

IF that's the meaning of the law, the COP is right.

BUT !!

In practical terms, I would hope most gun owners secure their weapons in such way that their theft would be swiftly detected.

If you have a safe with guns, you don’t need to go examine it and do inventory to make sure it hasn’t been broken into. Unless you just leave it open all the time. It was a massively stupid statement.

Plus, he reinforced his ignorance with the statement concerning the 2nd.

He can follow the law or not. Just be willing to pay the consequences for disobedience.

[sear]

"If you have a safe with guns, you don’t need to go examine it and do inventory to make sure it hasn’t been broken into. Unless you just leave it open all the time." d7

Correct.
The Washington Chief Of Police (COP) knows that as well as you do.

"It was a massively stupid statement." d7

Piffle.
You're arguing such theft would be unlikely to escape the owner's attention.
The COP knows that better than you.

Instead, the COP is ahead of you, not even addressing noticability, but instead stating an irrefutable truism:
- if the law gives a 5 day deadline, and
- if the gun owner FOR WHATEVER REASON, OR NO REASON AT ALL !!! !!!
does not detect the theft until the 5 days has elapsed, such law incriminates that formerly law abiding citizen.
I realize you have exceedingly limited experience in such matters.
So I'll cite one scenario that satisfies the COP's observation.

If the gun owner secures his gun in the safe or strong box, and takes a two week vacation in Barbados, only to return home to learn that either the container was breached and the gun stolen, or the strong box or safe was stolen, removed from the home,
and detectives prove the theft happened more than 5 days before reported, that crime victim is himself a criminal, BECAUSE OF THIS NEW LAW !!! !!!

"It was a massively stupid statement." d7

It may be a statistically unlikely scenario. But it is factually inerrant, IF the law is written as I described above.
If not, then I agree with you.

But Ockham's Razor:
any COP so out of touch with reality to not understand such basics of law wouldn't be in that line of work for long; and almost certainly would never become chief.

[volsrock]

It's obvious he doesn't have a clue regarding the 2nd Amendment. Not surprising. A pissant redneck police chief in a pissant redneck version of Mayberry.

His utter stupidity is obvious from this statement:

And as for having five days to report a stolen gun, he says, “So now you have to check your safe every five days to make sure it’s not been broken into, and make the inventory of guns is still correct? It’s ridiculous.”

It appears HE'S too stupid to carry a gun. Give old Barney Fife there one bullet so he doesn't hurt too many people.

We'll see what action the state's AG takes.

But it's OK for a police chief or sheriff to not enforce immigration law

[Althea]

I deduce d7 #2 interprets these words not on literal meaning, but on basis of some deeply ingrained emotional aversion.

I haven't read the text of the law.
But I give the COP benefit of doubt. If the law says gun owners are REQUIRED to report gun theft within 5 days, and failure to do so is a crime, and a gun owner doesn't notice the gun theft until after the deadline, that law makes that otherwise law abiding citizen a criminal.
Dislike it all you like.

IF that's the meaning of the law, the COP is right.

BUT !!

In practical terms, I would hope most gun owners secure their weapons in such way that their theft would be swiftly detected.

Two things:

The cop doesn't have the ability to enforce, or not enforce the law. Enforcement will come via the point of sale, where the enhanced background check/age limit will come into play.

The time limit on reporting a theft applies only to culpability if your gun was used in a crime. Another issue that Barney Fife has no control over. This would be an issue that's handled in the courts.

[Althea]

But it's OK for a police chief or sheriff to not enforce immigration law

Local cops don't enforce Fed. laws.

[volsrock]

Local cops don't enforce Fed. laws.

ICE enforcement agreement


The program, one of ICE's top partnership initiatives, allows a state or local law enforcement entity to enter into a partnership with ICE, under a joint Memorandum of Agreement, in order to receive delegated authority for immigration enforcement within their jurisdictions.

http://www.insidenova.com/culpeper/n...b9d476345.html

[Althea]

ICE enforcement agreement


The program, one of ICE's top partnership initiatives, allows a state or local law enforcement entity to enter into a partnership with ICE, under a joint Memorandum of Agreement, in order to receive delegated authority for immigration enforcement within their jurisdictions.

http://www.insidenova.com/culpeper/n...b9d476345.html

LMAO

[domer76]

But it's OK for a police chief or sheriff to not enforce immigration law

Enforcing federal immigration laws is the responsibility of the feds. Local policing is the responsibility of local police.

Comprende?