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    Why not strengthen laws that punish people with guns?

    Felon gets caught with a gun...15 years in prison at 100%

    Second offence life

    Someone diagnosed or under doctor's care for mental problems gets caught with gun 10 years at 100%

    Second offence life

    Get caught with gun commiting ANY crime, 15 years

    Second offence life

    Get caught selling gun without doing background check ...15 years

    Get caught carrying a gun without a CCW ..5 years at 100%

    Second offence 25 years


    In a known street gang get caught with a gun..20 years
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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Ok close those sites down today

    How will that stop the mass shooting that will happen next year?
    By itself, little, as part of a comprehensive approach, just one of many elements, the key is limiting access

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    What law can we pass today that will prevent this 20 years from now?

    Murder has been against the law for how long?
    lol

    You RW barrel-strokers sure are consistent in your willful ignorance, I'll say that.

    Despite what you mouth breathers claim, nobody has ever said removal of certain weapons will prevent all gun deaths. But strict gun control works, if you'd take the time to examine other western cultures. But, your almost-sexual fixation on that inanimate object prevents you from doing so.

    Fuck the hodge podge of state and local laws when just driving a few miles gets you easy access where gun laws are lax. One set of comprehensive, federal laws that apply everywhere. Make ANY gun violation a federal one. No mercy on sentencing. When you go away for 20 years, you won't be possessing a gun for 20 years. Harsher penalties for gun dealers who sell to those they know they shouldn't be.

    Strict limits on the number, type, accessories, etc. As I said, you don't see any mass shootings with machine guns, do you, Jethro? Why do you suppose that is?

    Such in-depth background check that they will know when you take a shit. Including social media to see if you've exhibited any abnormal behavior, hate speech, etc. I don't want you to even sell your peashooter to your crazy Uncle Bob. If you do, off to the federal prison for you.

    Product liability for manufacturers who market their weapons claiming their massive firepower, etc. When was the last time you saw a cigarette commercial, Jethro?

    No more open carry. Heller said you can have a weapon in the home for self-protection. Fine. Carry that peashooter out and you'd better invest in vaseline for your stay with Bubba.

    There are more, but that's a start.

    The idea, Jethro, is to gradually dry up or at least minimize accessibility to the types of weapons that we see being used so frequently these days.

    Now, go ahead and say something stupid about the 2nd Amendment, of which most of you barrel-strokers are completely ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Why not strengthen laws that punish people with guns?

    Felon gets caught with a gun...15 years in prison at 100%

    Second offence life

    Someone diagnosed or under doctor's care for mental problems gets caught with gun 10 years at 100%

    Second offence life

    Get caught with gun commiting ANY crime, 15 years

    Second offence life

    Get caught selling gun without doing background check ...15 years

    Get caught carrying a gun without a CCW ..5 years at 100%

    Second offence 25 years
    After the fact, individuals bent on murderimg others aren't effected by deterrence

    There are three variables in every mass shooting; the shooter, the target, and the weapon. As much as we try, we can never identify who the next shooter will be, nor can we predict the target. The only variable that we can have influence on is the weapon that makes it all possible.

    The key is access to guns, which in America is way to easy

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    When we passed DUI law, it targeted people not limit the alcohol available! And the law worked

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    After the fact, individuals bent on murderimg others aren't effected by deterrence

    There are three variables in every mass shooting; the shooter, the target, and the weapon. As much as we try, we can never identify who the next shooter will be, nor can we predict the target. The only variable that we can have influence on is the weapon that makes it all possible.

    The key is access to guns, which in America is way to easy
    Bingo

    individuals bent on murdering others will...with a car or whatever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    After the fact, individuals bent on murderimg others aren't effected by deterrence

    There are three variables in every mass shooting; the shooter, the target, and the weapon. As much as we try, we can never identify who the next shooter will be, nor can we predict the target. The only variable that we can have influence on is the weapon that makes it all possible.

    The key is access to guns, which in America is way to easy
    Nope

    That one shooter had seen a Dr for mental problems, and they knew he had gun...under my post above he could have been locked up

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    When we passed DUI law, it targeted people not limit the alcohol available! And the law worked
    Driving DUI isn't quite the same as committing mass murder, the shooter ain't afraid of any future punishment because of his actions, in most cases, it often ends with suicide

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Nope

    That one shooter had seen a Dr for mental problems, and they knew he had gun...under my post above he could have been locked up
    One?

    A good number of the individuals committing mass murders are "good guys with guns" right up to moment they open fire, Stephen Paddock wouldn't have been deterred by any of what you recommended

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Bingo

    individuals bent on murdering others will...with a car or whatever!
    But how many times in the US has it happened with "a car or whatever?"

    Kinda tells you guns are the preferred method of execution, for the most part, cars can't kill mass numbers in seconds

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    lol

    You RW barrel-strokers sure are consistent in your willful ignorance, I'll say that.

    Despite what you mouth breathers claim, nobody has ever said removal of certain weapons will prevent all gun deaths. But strict gun control works, if you'd take the time to examine other western cultures. But, your almost-sexual fixation on that inanimate object prevents you from doing so.

    Fuck the hodge podge of state and local laws when just driving a few miles gets you easy access where gun laws are lax. One set of comprehensive, federal laws that apply everywhere. Make ANY gun violation a federal one. No mercy on sentencing. When you go away for 20 years, you won't be possessing a gun for 20 years. Harsher penalties for gun dealers who sell to those they know they shouldn't be.

    Strict limits on the number, type, accessories, etc. As I said, you don't see any mass shootings with machine guns, do you, Jethro? Why do you suppose that is?

    Such in-depth background check that they will know when you take a shit. Including social media to see if you've exhibited any abnormal behavior, hate speech, etc. I don't want you to even sell your peashooter to your crazy Uncle Bob. If you do, off to the federal prison for you.

    Product liability for manufacturers who market their weapons claiming their massive firepower, etc. When was the last time you saw a cigarette commercial, Jethro?

    No more open carry. Heller said you can have a weapon in the home for self-protection. Fine. Carry that peashooter out and you'd better invest in vaseline for your stay with Bubba.

    There are more, but that's a start.

    The idea, Jethro, is to gradually dry up or at least minimize accessibility to the types of weapons that we see being used so frequently these days.

    Now, go ahead and say something stupid about the 2nd Amendment, of which most of you barrel-strokers are completely ignorant.
    Including social media to see if you've exhibited any abnormal behavior, hate speech, etc.

    Guess Biden couldn't buy a gun!

    Obama, if they bring a knife to a fight we bring a gun

    Whoops guess Obama can't buy a gun

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Including social media to see if you've exhibited any abnormal behavior, hate speech, etc.

    Guess Biden couldn't buy a gun!

    Obama, if they bring a knife to a fight we bring a gun

    Whoops guess Obama can't buy a gun
    Guess not, huh, shitstain? Think Obama has or wants one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Guess not, huh, shitstain? Think Obama has or wants one?
    He has 20 people around him all the time with guns...

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Why not strengthen laws that punish people with guns?

    Felon gets caught with a gun...15 years in prison at 100%

    Second offence life

    Someone diagnosed or under doctor's care for mental problems gets caught with gun 10 years at 100%

    Second offence life

    Get caught with gun commiting ANY crime, 15 years

    Second offence life

    Get caught selling gun without doing background check ...15 years

    Get caught carrying a gun without a CCW ..5 years at 100%

    Second offence 25 years


    In a known street gang get caught with a gun..20 years
    Why not? Because what you propose is immoral. In fact, enforcement of these laws would actually be more egregious than the things you propose are bad.
    If you believe that man is good, there is no need for government. If you believe that man is bad, you dare not create one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    He has 20 people around him all the time with guns...
    The kind of background check I refer to? We need the same ones for everyone that they have to pass.

    Are you that afraid that you need one 24/7?
    Last edited by domer76; 11-19-2018 at 10:00 PM.

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