Religious Racism: Texas Church Argues There's a Biblical Precedent for Strict Racial

[kudzu]

atheists and extreme fundamentalists have a lot in common when it comes to interpreting scripture......

You don't have to "interpret" it at all.. Just read what it says.

Genesis 9:20-27 King James Version (KJV)

20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:

21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

[kudzu]

atheists and extreme fundamentalists have a lot in common when it comes to interpreting scripture......

You don't have to "interpret" it at all.. Just read what it says.

Genesis 9:20-27 King James Version (KJV)

20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:

21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

[kudzu]

slavery was the birthchild of god-deniers.....

Really?

Biblical Reasons
• Abraham, the “father of faith,” and all the patriarchs held slaves without God’s disapproval (Gen. 21:9–10).

• Canaan, Ham’s son, was made a slave to his brothers (Gen. 9:24–27).

• The Ten Commandments mention slavery twice, showing God’s implicit acceptance of it (Ex. 20:10, 17).

• Slavery was widespread throughout the Roman world, and yet Jesus never spoke against it.

• The apostle Paul specifically commanded slaves to obey their masters (Eph. 6:5–8).

• Paul returned a runaway slave, Philemon, to his master (Philem. 12).

[jimmymccready]

Slavery with the birth child of man's inhumanity, whether atheist or believer.

[kudzu]

Slavery with the birth child of man's inhumanity, whether atheist or believer.

Lots of justifications for heinous acts among Christians.. Like the thousands of witch burnings or even Gott Mit Un in Nazi Germany.

[jimmymccready]

Lots of justifications for heinous acts among Christians.. Like the thousands of witch burnings or even Gott Mit Un in Nazi Germany.

Or in Pol Pot's Cambodia or Mao's China just in the last century.

[PostmodernProphet]

You don't have to "interpret" it at all.. Just read what it says.

Genesis 9:20-27 King James Version (KJV)

20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:

21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

obviously some rigorous interpretation has been applied.......neither slavery or race is mentioned.......

[kudzu]

obviously some rigorous interpretation has been applied.......neither slavery or race is mentioned.......

You have really poor reading skills.

25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.


The so-called curse of Ham was actually on Ham's son Canaan and not on Ham himself.

[PostmodernProphet]

Really?

Biblical Reasons
• Abraham, the “father of faith,” and all the patriarchs held slaves without God’s disapproval (Gen. 21:9–10).

• Canaan, Ham’s son, was made a slave to his brothers (Gen. 9:24–27).

• The Ten Commandments mention slavery twice, showing God’s implicit acceptance of it (Ex. 20:10, 17).

• Slavery was widespread throughout the Roman world, and yet Jesus never spoke against it.

• The apostle Paul specifically commanded slaves to obey their masters (Eph. 6:5–8).

• Paul returned a runaway slave, Philemon, to his master (Philem. 12).

yes, really.....only an atheist would twist scripture so violently to pretend it says the exact opposite of what Christianity teaches......have you ever read Phileman?......

15 Perhaps the reason he was separated from you for a little while was that you might have him back forever— 16 no longer as a slave, but better than a slave, as a dear brother. He is very dear to me but even dearer to you, both as a fellow man and as a brother in the Lord.

your anti-Christian bigotry is terribly sad.....

[PostmodernProphet]

Lots of justifications for heinous acts among Christians.. Like the thousands of witch burnings or even Gott Mit Un in Nazi Germany.

you are such a hateful little cunt....did a Christian girl break your heart in high school?......is this all for revenge because your parents made you go to Sunday School.....

[PostmodernProphet]

You have really poor reading skills.

25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.


The so-called curse of Ham was actually on Ham's son Canaan and not on Ham himself.

and he was racially prejudiced against his brother?........by the way a servant isn't actually a slave......

https://www.biblestudytools.com/inte...enesis+9&t=kjv

[kudzu]

and he was racially prejudiced against his brother?........by the way a servant isn't actually a slave......

Really? The Christians in America got it wrong for nearly 400 years. Did you go to school at all? According to Genesis the four sons of Noah represent different people and Ham or Cham was black.

Muslims and Jews also believed that Ham was the father of the black race and that justified slavery.

Japheth is usually thought of as the “Father of the Europeans” and the “Father of the Japhetic Race” equating the Japhetic nations to Europeans. He is known to be the ancestor of all Indo-European nations. The majority of his descendants are situated in north western regions like Anatolia and Aegean. However, there are also assumptions that Japheth is the “Father of the Asian or Mongoloid People.

[PostmodernProphet]

Really? The Christians in America got it wrong for nearly 400 years.

no......it was the anti-god slave owners that had it wrong.......

According to Genesis the four sons of Noah represent different people and Ham or Cham was black.

can you cite the verse that says that.....or did some anti-god theologian just make it up?.....

there are also assumptions

sort of summarizes all you posts...

[iolo]

Roman slavery was - like that in many places - a mix of human and inhuman, like feudalism, capitalism and other sick systems. Racist slavery, however, was quite another thing - the direct denial of Christianity, as we can tell from all this Old Testament crap.

[kudzu]

no......it was the anti-god slave owners that had it wrong.......


can you cite the verse that says that.....or did some anti-god theologian just make it up?.....


sort of summarizes all you posts...

Japath was supposed to be the father of Europeans and Shem was the father of the Hebrews and Arabs. What church were you raised in that you don't know your Bible?