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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    You are a pathetic pipsqueak 4' 10" female and are not allowed to call me "little dude". NEVER
    Apparently, you're wrong. I am allowed to call you little dude, since I just did so, little dude, and the only result was a sniveling meltdown from you. So, what are you going to do about it, little dude, aside from the usual wingnut explosion of impotent frustration?

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    then the people do not have the right to keep and bear arms?
    how the hell do you come to that conclusion? are you intentionally ignoring the tenets of the constitution and bill of rights?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    You are a pathetic pipsqueak 4' 10" female and are not allowed to call me "little dude". NEVER
    Why not? Everyone else does pencil dick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    how the hell do you come to that conclusion? are you intentionally ignoring the tenets of the constitution and bill of rights?
    You said the constitution only applies to the government not the people, so then people would not be allowed to carry arms. very simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    You are a pathetic pipsqueak 4' 10" female and are not allowed to call me "little dude". NEVER
    https://tenor.com/view/fuckyou-fuck-fuckoff-gif-5051051
    Little dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    You said the constitution only applies to the government not the people, so then people would not be allowed to carry arms. very simple.
    where in the CONSTITUTION does it say anything about the right to bear arms????
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    George will made the following comment regarding the argument that our 2nd Amendment accords right to government, not to individual citizens:

    In order to argue your point of view you have to say 3 things.
    1st of all that only the 2nd Amendment in the Bill of Rights does not protect individual rights, it protects the rights of the government.
    2nd you have to say that George Mason widely called the father of the Bill of Rights was wrong when he said by the militia we mean the whole People.
    3rd you have to say the Founders were clumsy framers of the Constitution because if they wanted to do what you say they did with the [2nd] Amendment which is say, States can have militias, all they needed to say was, Congress shall have no power to prohibit State militias period. They didn't. They talked about the rights of the People. George Will ABC-TV This Week 02/05/12
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    i actually do hate this. Once you say "slavery" the mind just turns off and repeats that as the cause of the civil war. It removes all opportunity for critical thinking such as economic issues, foreign policy issues, etc etc.
    All of which was related to...what?

    Slavery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Very true, but the issues are interrelated. States' rights is what allowed states to choose to adopt slavery and its expansion in the new states.
    So the specific state right that was in conflict was the right to have slaves.

    So how is slavery not the root cause?

    Everything always comes back to slavery when it comes to the Civil War.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    where in the CONSTITUTION does it say anything about the right to bear arms????
    Try the second amendment, Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    lets say there were no slaves only white farmers picking the cotton.
    There weren't, and slavery persisted. And most of the whites in the South didn't own slaves, they just thought they were superior to slaves and were willing to commit treason to defend that idea. And they only thought that because rich, white Southerners told them as such.

    Kinda like how rich, white Southerners tell you things about different groups today, and you pick up that banner and run with it because it makes you feel good about being such a loser.


    There may have still been a war when the north insisted on placing tariffs on Europe to help their industries grow at the expense of the south who relied on the european cotton markets.
    The South relied on slave labor to fill the demand of the cotton markets. So the premise of your "what if" can't even hold water.


    he north would literally have destroyed the south economically slaves or no.
    Maybe you should take that less as a warning and more as an enlightenment that the South was, and continues to be, a bunch of underachieving moochers and lazy racist assholes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    how the hell do you come to that conclusion? are you intentionally ignoring the tenets of the constitution and bill of rights?
    What "tenets"? What are you talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Try the second amendment, Einstein
    1. the 2nd Amendment is not IN the CONSTITUTION.
    2. the 2nd Amendment does not GIVE us our right to bear arms, it tells the federal government that it 'shall not be infringed'.
    3. The Bill of Rights is NOT the US Constitution.

    got that, einstein?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    What "tenets"? What are you talking about?
    that every article, section, and clause of the constitution dictates what branch of the new government it applies to, what the makeup and organization of that branch is comprised of, and what powers are delegated to it. Those 'tenets'.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    1. the 2nd Amendment is not IN the CONSTITUTION.
    2. the 2nd Amendment does not GIVE us our right to bear arms, it tells the federal government that it 'shall not be infringed'.
    3. The Bill of Rights is NOT the US Constitution.

    got that, einstein?
    Every single constitutional amendment becomes part of the constitution, EINSTEIN

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