TX schools will now teach that Civil War was all about slavery!!!

[kudzu]

that piece of property that the south had to evict the union from because they wouldn't leave on their own?

Well, you could say that. The Union blocked Charleston Harbor in April of 1861......

scuse my typo.

[Sailor]

As I understand it slavery was waning by 1790 until the invention of the cotton ginn.

Eli Whitney said that 2 slaves using the ginn could clean as much cotton as 100 slaves by hand.

"This Ginn, if turned with horses or by water, two persons will clean as much cotton in one Day as a Hundred persons could cleane in the same time"
- Eli Whitney

Consequently more land was dedicated to cotton and more slaves were involved to the tune of perhaps 1.5 million people... but by 1850 there were too many for the southern planters to work or provide for.

I can't say when it became and dying institution ... some say by 1860.

The cotton gin did increase the efficiency of cleaning cotton of seeds. By a hundred fold as you point out. Because of that they needed more and more cotton for the machines and the profit that came with it. The cotton gin was for de-seeding cotton only. It did not pick it. The cotton gin actually increased the need for slaves to pick more cotton. If it had not been invented, there is a very real chance cotton would have become economically nonviable, possibly ending slavery earlier.

[katzgar]

Are you familiar with Fort Sumter??

yup, the confederates attacked a federal property

[katzgar]

Your parents must have thought that was cute. Hence the reason you are a poor, broke dumb fuck.

LOL

[floridafan]

so the United States Supreme Court ignored the reasons why the founding fathers created the federal government and by issuance of this opinion, changed the federal government to one of we the people, to one of we the elite.

maybe they should have had the Declaration of Independence read to them during the case.

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

You lose again. We are governed by the Constitution NOT the Declaration of Independence

[floridafan]

in their opinion, what part of the constitution did they cite that says states are not authorized to leave the union once they've joined???????

You ask them, honey bunny, but since the SC ruled all your kind of garbage can do is whine and cry.

[floridafan]

HAHAHA. Courts are not allowed to rewrite the constitution, you ignoramus. Show us where the constitution says anything about secession.

The SC ruled, its the law of the land. Eat your fucking heart out.

[kudzu]

yup, the confederates attacked a federal property

You could say that.. The union blockaded Charleston Harbor by taking over Fort Sumter.

[domer76]

Nothing in the constitution bans secession either. In fact many argue that the tenth amendment gives states the right to secede.

America was FOUNDED ON SECESSSION. The original 13 colonies seceded from england. The founding fathers took the right to secede for granted. THINK

Many would argue that, dumbfuck. But they're just as fucking stupid as you.

[domer76]

OMG - your stupidity embarrasses the whole board. Sumter was a CONFEDERATE fort after south carolina seceded, you pathetic ignoramus.!!!

It was a federal fort, you fucking moron. It didn't become a Confederate fort just because the treasonous southerners said so.

Fucking idiot

[katzgar]

You could say that.. The union blockaded Charleston Harbor by taking over Fort Sumter.

South Carolina had ceeded Fort Sumter to the federal government. You're making a fool of yourself

[kudzu]

It was a federal fort, you fucking moron. It didn't become a Confederate fort just because the treasonous southerners said so.

Fucking idiot

That was in question and not settled until 1841.. The land grant was to a guy named Laval I think.

[Mott the Hoople]

How many times must we explain this??? Everyone agrees the south supported slavery and it was a major reason why they seceded. But the south did not want a war and did not start one. There should have never been a civil war. The union should have let the south go.

Secession is very common in history.

Fair enough. We could have simply let the South Walk. That certainly would have prevented the Civil War.

The question then is did the Union have a valid interest in stopping the Southern States from seceding?

[Minister of Truth]

so you're saying that the union declined to enforce the law?

Unconstitutional laws.

[Minister of Truth]

You could say that.. The union blockaded Charleston Harbor by taking over Fort Sumter.

Have you ever taken over your own property?