Parkland Students 1 - NRA 0 ... NRA Broke, Claims It Might Be 'Unable To Exist'

[PoliTalker]

Hello Quetzalcoatl,

I don't even know where to begin with how wrong you are in all of this. Your premise is so fundamentally flawed it should be disregarded entirely.

You can try to pretend that mine is an outlier view, but I don't think that would be realistic.

And it's clear you know absolutely nothing about firearms or how they work if you're saying things like "no one needs an assault weapon". You clearly don't know what you're talking about and likely have no desire to learn either.

I know all I need to know about guns to understand the situation is out of control when school children are in fear of their lives instead of their grades. Being a gun enthusiast is not required to have a view on something which poses a threat to peaceful existence as a productive member of society.

[evince]

people who wish death on everyone who disagrees with them have mental issues

[Minister of Truth]

Good morning 3D,



That's the problem with stereotyping.

People are individuals.

People think for themselves.

I don't fit the standard stereotype.

I happen to like the right of gun ownership. I support that. I just don't think unstable people should have them. And we need to control what kind of guns are out there. We have too many senseless shootings. Too much death. It's hurting the country. It's time to do something. Solve it or we will. And you might not like the solution.

We literally would never be discussing the 2nd Amendment in this country if not for the left.

[PoliTalker]

Hello RB 60,

You're a fool. You know nothing of the NRA or it's membership.
Who the hell are you to preach responsibility to me? You know me?
You want my military issued "assault weapons," come and get them.
Save your ignorant rants for someone else, you are clueless.

I have no desire to take away your guns. A comprehensive long-term solution shouldn't have to do that. I would support legislation which would allow you to keep everything you have for as long as you live, and your family could keep things which are inherited as long as those weapons are not used in a crime. That's the goal. To have these things not ever used to attack innocent people. That's the problem, and we can no longer ignore it.

I could see stringent new gun-control legislation, if the gun lobby would allow it, which would allow all current owners of guns to keep everything. There could be a buy-back for those who have had enough, or heirs who have no interest in owning something handed down in death. Let everybody keep everything they have now. (That wouldn't be good enough for the current NRA, because the NRA is now all about protecting profits as much as rights. And it is having an internal struggle with that. I understand most NRA members want more sensible gun control.)

But the moment any of these things are used inappropriately, they should be destroyed. And one by one, they will all either be gone, or owned by responsible people who pose no threat.

And let's stop the sales of weapons which are not appropriate for civil society, as we stop allowing mentally unstable people from owning guns.

Personally, as a mature and wise person who is able to conduct civil discourse, I think people who cannot have a rational discussion without making personal attacks are showing enough immaturity that they should not be allowed to purchase or own guns.

I am entitled to my view, and I should be allowed the freedom to voice it. That's what freedom means.

We have some people here who fought for freedom. Some paid the ultimate price. Others came back, but when they came back they were not the same people they were before. That's a tragic consequence of war, and a reason why we as a nation should only resort to war as an absolute final and last resort, after exhausting all options for preserving peace. Peace is the goal. Peace is always the goal. Even if we fight wars, the goal is to have it over and done, and return to peace. War is terrible. Nothing good comes from war. The price paid for war is far greater than the lives lost and the dollars wasted. The toll it takes on human minds and the ability to simply enjoy life are incalculable. And the mind-toll is greater than ever acknowledged. People who can't sleep. People who want to be happy, but can't be. People who initiate aggression for no good reason. Family members who don't understand what's going on with people. Children raised by parents who struggle to simply 'have a good day.' And we wonder where all these messed up minds come from...

People bring the war home with them. They can't just erase it out of their minds. We should never go to war unless there simply is no other option.

A nation needs to defend itself if attacked. A society does too. Common sense gun control regulations are coming. It will be a nasty fight but one that needs to happen.

[PoliTalker]

note how violent the gun cuddlers are

You're one to talk.

[PoliTalker]

We literally would never be discussing the 2nd Amendment in this country if not for the left.

We would not have a country if not for the left.

-And the right...

We need all voices.

Our nation depends on Diversity.

[evince]

We literally would never be discussing the 2nd Amendment in this country if not for the left.

and there would be lots of dead people if only right wing gun nutters ran everything

[evince]

You're one to talk.

where do I talk violent?


I respond to threats not create them

[PoliTalker]

Hello evince,

where do I talk violent?


I respond to threats not create them

I have seen you attack people for simply voicing their view. They voice a view and you sucker-punch. You know you have a problem with that. You announced you were going to participate in clean debate week but couldn't last the first morning. 'Restraint' is not in your vocabulary. As a help, I have modified the OP to reflect why self-restraint is a valuable personal quality. Please read it and keep it in mind. Thank you. Let's have a higher quality of debate than the usual gun thread.

[Minister of Truth]

Who are these lefties? Asking for a friend

For starters, it's a full 1/3 of Democrats as a whole. Here on JPP, there's clowns like Domer.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...crats-say-yes/

[Minister of Truth]

and there would be lots of dead people if only right wing gun nutters ran everything

No more than there were pre-leftism.

[Phantasmal]

We literally would never be discussing the 2nd Amendment in this country if not for the left.

There are those on the right that think gun regulation is necessary, I’ve spoken with some. Would you “righties” just ignore the mass shootings?

[Phantasmal]

No more than there were pre-leftism.

When was the time before pre leftism?

[evince]

Hello evince,



I have seen you attack people for simply voicing their view. They voice a view and you sucker-punch. You know you have a problem with that. You announced you were going to participate in clean debate week but couldn't last the first morning. 'Restraint' is not in your vocabulary. As a help, I have modified the OP to reflect why self-restraint is a valuable personal quality. Please read it and keep it in mind. Thank you. Let's have a higher quality of debate than the usual gun thread.

I dont remember saying I would

me attacking people for believing lies is what Im all about


haven't you noticed that


If you spew or embrace lies I go after you

you just don't like me being a strong and outspoken person who uses invective

lots of men get disturbed by a women doing that

[Nomad]

Shut the fuck up you fossilized turd. You couldn't fight a toddler and hope to win so drop the tough guy act and take your geritol.

There are members here who've seen pictures of me.

I'm every bit of 6'3" and weigh over 250 lbs.

I could drop kick your ass then go have lunch, little gun sucker pussy boy.

You're nothing but talk.