What is socialism?

**Flash** · 11-19-2018, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by montgomery

Completely wrong. You can believe it for the same reason why you need to believe that Trump's fascist tactics are in appealing to his followers to hate minorities. Those minorities are your reason why your American way lot in life is so shitty and inferior to ordinary people in the world's happiest countries. You've obviously being screwed but you don't understand who is doing the screwing.

You are a moron if you think I need to believe anything about Trump's tactics. I never said anything about Trump---that is a wildly simplistic generalization on your part that must categorize everything into two left or right.

My quality of life is fine. I am not so helpless that I blame others for not being more successful, happy, or wealthy. Such attitudes are the result of low self-efficacy that leads a person to believe he has no control over his own life. I don't make up evil forces who are screwing me and I am not jealous because they are wealthier than I am or living in a "happier" country (with higher levels of alcoholism and suicide).

**Lightbringer** · 11-19-2018, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Flash

You are a moron if you think I need to believe anything about Trump's tactics. I never said anything about Trump---that is a wildly simplistic generalization on your part that must categorize everything into two left or right.

My quality of life is fine. I am not so helpless that I blame others for not being more successful, happy, or wealthy. Such attitudes are the result of low self-efficacy that leads a person to believe he has no control over his own life. I don't make up evil forces who are screwing me and I am not jealous because they are wealthier than I am or living in a "happier" country (with higher levels of alcoholism and suicide).

montdonkeysucker is an idiot.

**montgomery** · 11-19-2018, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Flash

You are a moron if you think I need to believe anything about Trump's tactics. I never said anything about Trump---that is a wildly simplistic generalization on your part that must categorize everything into two left or right.

My quality of life is fine. I am not so helpless that I blame others for not being more successful, happy, or wealthy. Such attitudes are the result of low self-efficacy that leads a person to believe he has no control over his own life. I don't make up evil forces who are screwing me and I am not jealous because they are wealthier than I am or living in a "happier" country (with higher levels of alcoholism and suicide).

I know! You've sold out to the American way and your explanation is exactly what I would expect.

I don't know about you personally so I only suspect, but I know the statistics overall about ordinary Americans and so there's nothing you can say that will fool me on that. If you think you're not being screwed by the American way system of bullshit then good for you. I'm sure that if you had a closer look at the socially responsible capitalist countries of the world you would feel guilt and feel like an unworthy American who doesn't appreciate his country/freedom/and other bullshit scams. And then hair would start sprouting on the palms of your hands!

I can't help those who refuse to be helped. Luv from Canada.

**montgomery** · 11-19-2018, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Deplorable

montdonkeysucker is an idiot.

I have you feeling the way I want you to feel about me. The resentment comes first. Read my reply to the flash.

**Lightbringer** · 11-19-2018, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by montgomery

I have you feeling the way I want you to feel about me. The resentment comes first. Read my reply to the flash.

And here's the little bitch.

Yeah, suck my dick poseur.

**montgomery** · 11-19-2018, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Deplorable

And here's the little bitch.

Yeah, suck my dick poseur.

You're the real thing and it's a privilege to have one of you to find out what makes you tick.

**Lightbringer** · 11-19-2018, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by montgomery

You're the real thing and it's a privilege to have one of you to find out what makes you tick.

I'm amazed you found time to take your lips off of Hedges cock and post here.

**Anarchon** · 11-19-2018, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by kudzu

You must be a hermit that lives off grid.

Do you not believe people can associate voluntarily?

**montgomery** · 11-19-2018, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Deplorable

I'm amazed you found time to take your lips off of Hedges cock and post here.

I'm completely o.k. with that kind of insults from you. In fact I encourage it! Now I think I'll ignore you until you're able to come up with something more interesting.

**Lightbringer** · 11-19-2018, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by montgomery

I'm completely o.k. with that kind of insults from you. In fact I encourage it! Now I think I'll ignore you until you're able to come up with something more interesting.

You are, without a doubt, the dumbest motherfucker I've seen here and that's saying something. Enjoy your crown you little bitch.

**Flash** · 11-19-2018, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by montgomery

I know! You've sold out to the American way and your explanation is exactly what I would expect.

I don't know about you personally so I only suspect, but I know the statistics overall about ordinary Americans and so there's nothing you can say that will fool me on that. If you think you're not being screwed by the American way system of bullshit then good for you. I'm sure that if you had a closer look at the socially responsible capitalist countries of the world you would feel guilt and feel like an unworthy American who doesn't appreciate his country/freedom/and other bullshit scams. And then hair would start sprouting on the palms of your hands!

I can't help those who refuse to be helped. Luv from Canada.

Have you been taking social science courses again? If you know statistics that automatically means you know what you are talking about. I have been to your country--it is very nice. But the same people who are screwing Americans are screwing Canadians---the need to think you are being screwed--to meet your need to express anger to those keeping you down. You would be rich, famous, and happy if not for those evil forces controlling your life.

**Flash** · 11-19-2018, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by kudzu

Well, if one doesn't agree to follow the rules I think one would have to live as a hermit off grid. Libertarians are such flakes.

I don't know any libertarians who live off the grid. Those people are more likely to be hermit conspiracy theory types.

**montgomery** · 11-19-2018, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by Flash

Have you been taking social science courses again? If you know statistics that automatically means you know what you are talking about. I have been to your country--it is very nice. But the same people who are screwing Americans are screwing Canadians---the need to think you are being screwed--to meet your need to express anger to those keeping you down. You would be rich, famous, and happy if not for those evil forces controlling your life.

I know the same evil forces are at work in Canada too, but they haven't achieved much success yet.

I am pretty rich, I'm happy, but I'm not famous. Maybe it would help if you had a look at the world's happiest countries?

https://www.google.ca/search?q=world...hrome&ie=UTF-8

Leave your feelings of patriotism for when you're talking to your fellow Americans. You're being fukked and you probably already know that. How much Canada is being fukked in the same way is a matter of concern for me, not you.

**Flash** · 11-19-2018, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by montgomery

I know the same evil forces are at work in Canada too, but they haven't achieved much success yet.

I am pretty rich, I'm happy, but I'm not famous. Maybe it would help if you had a look at the world's happiest countries?

https://www.google.ca/search?q=world...hrome&ie=UTF-8

Leave your feelings of patriotism for when you're talking to your fellow Americans. You're being fukked and you probably already know that. How much Canada is being fukked in the same way is a matter of concern for me, not you.

I expressed no feelings of patriotism and recognize many faults in the U. S.; however, those who pretend they are better are as deluded as those who think the U. S. is the "best."

Your list of the world's happiest countries show Finland is the happiest but its level of alcohol consumption per capita (#16) vs. the U. S. (#48) and its suicide rate raises questions about whether higher income and life expectancy are really making people happy.

People who are busy trying to improve their lives don't have time to blame people for screwing them over just because Populists are trying to impose that outdated ideology on them.

**Robo** · 11-20-2018, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Deplorable

Don't talk to me about opinions. You are the one who is making an argument that government = socialism yet posted a definition of socialism that didn't mention government at all.

(quote Robo, dictionary.com) Socialism:. "a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole."

Then you deny that "the community as a whole" is NOT GOVERNMENT of, by and for the people, right? You also in that denial mode deny that the governing body, community as a whole DOES NOT control the means of production and distribution by way of taxation and regulation, also, correct?

If community as a whole isn't government by definition, what is GOVERNMENT in America the nation "GOVERNED" of, by and for the people. Is "We The People" a bleeping lie?