Neo-Nazi Harassment Not Protected by First Amendment, Judge Rules

[Guno צְבִי]

A lawsuit accusing the publisher of the neo-Nazi site Daily Stormer of coordinating a “terror campaign” of online harassment against a Jewish real estate agent cannot be dismissed on First Amendment grounds, a federal judge in Montana ruled this week.


In his ruling denying a motion to dismiss the lawsuit, Dana L. Christensen, the chief judge for United States District Court in Missoula, Mont., wrote that the real estate agent, Tanya Gersh, was a private citizen, not a public figure, and that the publisher, Andrew Anglin, incited his followers to harass her as part of a personal campaign.

The events that spurred the lawsuit began in the fall of 2016, when The Daily Stormer published a series of articles attacking Ms. Gersh, of Whitefish, Mont., for her interactions with Sherry Spencer, the mother of the white supremacist leader Richard Spencer.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ne...les/ar-BBPL0wI

[Fentoine Lum]

Man, white guys can't have any fun at all anymore. First date rape, now this.

[PostmodernProphet]

guano will have to be more careful now.......the law is not going to protect him.......

[Jack]

guano will have to be more careful now.......the law is not going to protect him.......

Will this stop guno from his Daily Hate Speech against Christians and White People?

[RB 60]

Will this stop guno from his Daily Hate Speech against Christians and White People?

Nope. According to this "judge," only "a private citizen, not a public figure" is protected by the 1st. Amendment from a “terror campaign” of online harassment.
Since this forum is a public forum and we posters here could be considered "public figure(s)", guno and all the other racists and bigots are free to harass.
I wonder if this "judge" consulted "Mad Maxine" Waters before reaching this "double standard" decision of allowing a "public figure" to be harassed?
So Jack, according to this "judge," you too can also continue you're harassment and insults of Christians...

[Irish Exit]

Since there is no government action, I am not sure the first amendment even applies either way.

[RB 60]

Since there is no government action, I am not sure the first amendment even applies either way.

I've always thought harassment is harassment, no matter who is being harassed. I'd say it's safe to say almost every one of us here has been harassed at one time or another by another poster, and I am also guilty of it, but it comes with the territory. I'm generally not offended much unless one of my family members are insulted, especially those who are deceased, but I sure as hell won't bring a lawsuit against them.
Insulting a poster's family member is a personal line I won't cross though.
That said, it seems that many people are offended by anything these days, even a display/monument, yet those same people think it's OK to harass someone they disagree with in public and at their homes.
(Isn't that right, Maxine?)

[Jack]

Nope. According to this "judge," only "a private citizen, not a public figure" is protected by the 1st. Amendment from a “terror campaign” of online harassment.
Since this forum is a public forum and we posters here could be considered "public figure(s)", guno and all the other racists and bigots are free to harass.
I wonder if this "judge" consulted "Mad Maxine" Waters before reaching this "double standard" decision of allowing a "public figure" to be harassed?
So Jack, according to this "judge," you too can also continue you're harassment and insults of Christians...

RB60: "... you too can also continue you're harassment and insults of Christians..."
Jack: If there is a thread about Christians (or Jews or Muslims), I give my opinion. Otherwise I have no need to mention them. (Maybe you have me mixed up with 'guno'?)

Hey, ... I'm doing this genealogy search and finding a lot of ancestors that were Quakers around Philadelphia, PA in the 1700s. Seems like they all like to have 10 kids ... and then marry each other.

[RB 60]

RB60: "... you too can also continue you're harassment and insults of Christians..."
Jack: If there is a thread about Christians (or Jews or Muslims), I give my opinion. Otherwise I have no need to mention them. (Maybe you have me mixed up with 'guno'?)

Hey, ... I'm doing this genealogy search and finding a lot of ancestors that were Quakers around Philadelphia, PA in the 1700s. Seems like they all like to have 10 kids ... and then marry each other.

Sorry to hear about your ancestors, I would've thought they'd have been more sociable.

[Irish Exit]

I've always thought harassment is harassment, no matter who is being harassed. I'd say it's safe to say almost every one of us here has been harassed at one time or another by another poster, and I am also guilty of it, but it comes with the territory. I'm generally not offended much unless one of my family members are insulted, especially those who are deceased, but I sure as hell won't bring a lawsuit against them.
Insulting a poster's family member is a personal line I won't cross though.
That said, it seems that many people are offended by anything these days, even a display/monument, yet those same people think it's OK to harass someone they disagree with in public and at their homes.
(Isn't that right, Maxine?)

Either way, the thread is about the first amendment ruling by the judge. I do not see the first amendment even applying without government action. People talk smack all over the internet. It is par for the course. I don't think many people outside those amazon/goodreads people know much about anybody's real life. After some PM's back and forth, I sent owlwoman some plants. I deleted her personal information from my PM's almost as soon as I had it, and then tossed her address after I had sent what I sent and she confirmed receipt. Other than her state, I don't recall a thing about it. I have done online plant/seed swapping with people online since I was in my early teens. No matter what site grudge I may have with someone over something, it has never been personal. One woman on another site whom I loathe with every fiber of my existence as perhaps the most hateful woman on the planet and I have traded back and forth several times and I have bought some pretty expensive plants from her as well. Business is business. The rest is jetsam and flotsam to pass time.

[volsrock]

A lawsuit accusing the publisher of the neo-Nazi site Daily Stormer of coordinating a “terror campaign” of online harassment against a Jewish real estate agent cannot be dismissed on First Amendment grounds, a federal judge in Montana ruled this week.


In his ruling denying a motion to dismiss the lawsuit, Dana L. Christensen, the chief judge for United States District Court in Missoula, Mont., wrote that the real estate agent, Tanya Gersh, was a private citizen, not a public figure, and that the publisher, Andrew Anglin, incited his followers to harass her as part of a personal campaign.

The events that spurred the lawsuit began in the fall of 2016, when The Daily Stormer published a series of articles attacking Ms. Gersh, of Whitefish, Mont., for her interactions with Sherry Spencer, the mother of the white supremacist leader Richard Spencer.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ne...les/ar-BBPL0wI

Yup

The same thing that allows to to cheer and hope for white deaths online is protected

Hypocrite!

[SmarterthanYou]

A lawsuit accusing the publisher of the neo-Nazi site Daily Stormer of coordinating a “terror campaign” of online harassment against a Jewish real estate agent cannot be dismissed on First Amendment grounds, a federal judge in Montana ruled this week.


In his ruling denying a motion to dismiss the lawsuit, Dana L. Christensen, the chief judge for United States District Court in Missoula, Mont., wrote that the real estate agent, Tanya Gersh, was a private citizen, not a public figure, and that the publisher, Andrew Anglin, incited his followers to harass her as part of a personal campaign.

The events that spurred the lawsuit began in the fall of 2016, when The Daily Stormer published a series of articles attacking Ms. Gersh, of Whitefish, Mont., for her interactions with Sherry Spencer, the mother of the white supremacist leader Richard Spencer.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ne...les/ar-BBPL0wI

i can't believe this shit ass suit was even filed. the 1st Amendment does not prohibit PRIVATE citizens from crap, it restricts GOVERNMENT!!!!!!

[bhoyal]

Will this stop guno from his Daily Hate Speech against Christians and White People?

I hope not. They are way overdue to get some in return what they've been dishing out for hundreds of years. Buncha white xtian RWNJ snowflakes...can dish it out but they can't take it.

[Jack]

Sorry to hear about your ancestors, I would've thought they'd have been more sociable.

Well RB60, if you'd seen some of the photographs of their children and grandchildren, ... you'd have seen why.

[Jack]

I hope not. They are way overdue to get some in return what they've been dishing out for hundreds of years. Buncha white xtian RWNJ snowflakes...can dish it out but they can't take it.

Thanks. Always helpful to know the Haters here that reside amongst us.