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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneuli View Post
    This is one argument for affirmative action. The idea is that if you seed underprivileged communities with successful people, you can alter the underlying culture in a positive way (e.g., providing role models within that community who can have an out-sized effect on those around them).
    it could. there could be a critical mass for them to cause trouble. Like for example one muslim in a country of 100,000 could be a model citizen but 30,000 muslims in a country of 100,000 would be cutting off the heads of unbelievers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    As a Virginian, my response is stop committing felonies. Nobody is disenfranchising them.
    You're confused. The legislators are, in fact, disenfranchising them. You're welcome to argue why you're fine with them losing their voting rights, but the simple reality is that they are being disenfranchised.... and in some states it's been done so widely that a fifth or even a quarter of all blacks have lost their voting rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    it could. there could be a critical mass for them to cause trouble. Like for example one muslim in a country of 100,000 could be a model citizen but 30,000 muslims in a country of 100,000 would be cutting off the heads of unbelievers.
    I'm not really following your argument here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneuli View Post
    You're confused. The legislators are, in fact, disenfranchising them. You're welcome to argue why you're fine with them losing their voting rights, but the simple reality is that they are being disenfranchised.... and in some states it's been done so widely that a fifth or even a quarter of all blacks have lost their voting rights.
    Legislatures are not the ones making them felons. People do not have an automatic right to vote. The Supreme Court settled this issue in 1974 in Richardson v. Ramirez

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    If you can afford to live in Vermont, you probably aren't concerned about being disenfranchised.
    Unless you are a minority. Then you have a much greater chance of being jailed. Been that way a very long time in VT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneuli View Post
    I recently ran across the following data:

    https://www.sentencingproject.org/th...set-option=SIR

    What is mind-blowing is what a high percentage of black people have been legally disenfranchised in many states. In a few states, it's none (e.g., Maine and Vermont), or next to none (0.83% in Massachusetts). But, throughout the South and in many other parts, disenfranchisement of blacks is sky-high. Over a quarter of blacks in Kentucky have been disenfranchised. Tennessee, Virginia, and Florida aren't far behind, with over a fifth of blacks disenfranchised.
    That was the Koch Bros. ingenious plan that began in '10
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    LMAO... gee I wonder why Maine is so low? and Vermont? Could it be that both only have about 1% of their population that is black? Both are very low in terms of total population?
    Legal disenfranchisement is due to being a convicted felon. Some states (New England) do not disenfranchise convicted felons like in many states. In some of those New England states a person can vote while in prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneuli View Post
    I recently ran across the following data:

    https://www.sentencingproject.org/th...set-option=SIR

    What is mind-blowing is what a high percentage of black people have been legally disenfranchised in many states. In a few states, it's none (e.g., Maine and Vermont), or next to none (0.83% in Massachusetts). But, throughout the South and in many other parts, disenfranchisement of blacks is sky-high. Over a quarter of blacks in Kentucky have been disenfranchised. Tennessee, Virginia, and Florida aren't far behind, with over a fifth of blacks disenfranchised.
    Wait, you're saying convicted criminals have been "disenfranchised"? Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneuli View Post
    This is one argument for affirmative action. The idea is that if you seed underprivileged communities with successful people, you can alter the underlying culture in a positive way (e.g., providing role models within that community who can have an out-sized effect on those around them).
    Is this idea of yours executed voluntarily, or do you pretend to own these successful people just like the slaves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    it could. there could be a critical mass for them to cause trouble. Like for example one muslim in a country of 100,000 could be a model citizen but 30,000 muslims in a country of 100,000 would be cutting off the heads of unbelievers.
    I think that's the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Broadly speaking, Republicans do not want black people voting. And that was true even of the conservative Dixiecrats of a century ago when they controlled the South.

    Don't take my word for it: there are about three billion posts on this forum with Republicans complaining that blacks only vote "to get free stuff".
    People say that on different sites too and on web news stories with reader comments. They don't want them to vote, you are right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Unless you are a minority. Then you have a much greater chance of being jailed. Been that way a very long time in VT.
    It is that way everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneuli View Post
    I recently ran across the following data:

    https://www.sentencingproject.org/th...set-option=SIR

    What is mind-blowing is what a high percentage of black people have been legally disenfranchised in many states. In a few states, it's none (e.g., Maine and Vermont), or next to none (0.83% in Massachusetts). But, throughout the South and in many other parts, disenfranchisement of blacks is sky-high. Over a quarter of blacks in Kentucky have been disenfranchised. Tennessee, Virginia, and Florida aren't far behind, with over a fifth of blacks disenfranchised.
    shocking......who would ever have expected that people who commit crimes might end up in jail......

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    Time for white American to get on board.
    they already are.......they can't vote if they are in jail either......

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