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Maybe it's because they support Democrats, huh?Originally Posted by kudzu
"Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."
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There are lot of jobs being created in alternative energy like solar and wind. That was what she was talking about. Miners should have embraced it. No matter who is in charge, coal mining is disappearing. She made that point. Perhaps Fox forgot to mention it.
Irish Exit (11-17-2018)
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actually the coal miners in West Virginia voted for trump didn't they you uneducated moron
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She didn't do that you are a liar
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Hello Bourbon,
Man, you're hot today. Another excellent thread!US coal plant retirements second highest ever - Belch
https://www.treehugger.com/fossil-fu...hest-ever.html
And nobody appears to be in a rush to be building new capacity either. Interestingly, alongside competition from cheaper natural gas, Bloomberg New Energy Finance points to the "zero marginal cost" nature of renewables as one of the factors putting pressure on the viability of coal. As Mike noted back in 2015 (the only year to beat the current one for coal plant closures), the fact that solar and wind have extremely low marginal costs once they are up and running means they can afford to undercut coal for baseload power at almost any price—leading to what some have referred to as "death by capacity factor".
When I wrote about Spanish miners embracing the closure of mines, one commenter questioned my assertion that US coal was declining too. And they were right—at least as far as coal production is concerned.
Consumption, and consumption capacity, however is another matter.
In fact, Bloomberg News Energy Finance (found via the good folks at Cleantechnica) reports that coal power plant closures will hit their second highest year on record, at least as far as capacity is concerned:This year’s widespread closures were headlined by the retirement of four massive Vistra plants in the ERCOT (Texas) market. Coal plants retiring this year produced 127,000 gigawatt-hours of electricity in 2017, enough to power 12 million homes.
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Hey, katzgar. Don't get pissed off at me because your 401 is doing poor. Try being a little more active from now on.
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your best plan would be to stop being a liar
Jack (11-16-2018)
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Your best Plan ... would be to stop investing in Emerging Markets. Their currency is shit.
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Hello Bourbon,
Been a while since I read any stories about new coal power plants being built.US coal plant retirements second highest ever - Belch
https://www.treehugger.com/fossil-fu...hest-ever.html
And nobody appears to be in a rush to be building new capacity either. Interestingly, alongside competition from cheaper natural gas, Bloomberg New Energy Finance points to the "zero marginal cost" nature of renewables as one of the factors putting pressure on the viability of coal. As Mike noted back in 2015 (the only year to beat the current one for coal plant closures), the fact that solar and wind have extremely low marginal costs once they are up and running means they can afford to undercut coal for baseload power at almost any price—leading to what some have referred to as "death by capacity factor".
When I wrote about Spanish miners embracing the closure of mines, one commenter questioned my assertion that US coal was declining too. And they were right—at least as far as coal production is concerned.
Consumption, and consumption capacity, however is another matter.
In fact, Bloomberg News Energy Finance (found via the good folks at Cleantechnica) reports that coal power plant closures will hit their second highest year on record, at least as far as capacity is concerned:This year’s widespread closures were headlined by the retirement of four massive Vistra plants in the ERCOT (Texas) market. Coal plants retiring this year produced 127,000 gigawatt-hours of electricity in 2017, enough to power 12 million homes.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
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you are on drugs again
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Truth: "Natural Gas" production due to FRACKING is the reason that coal is being replaced, SLOWLY as the number one energy source to make cheap electricity.US coal plant retirements second highest ever - Belch
https://www.treehugger.com/fossil-fu...hest-ever.html
And nobody appears to be in a rush to be building new capacity either. Interestingly, alongside competition from cheaper natural gas, Bloomberg New Energy Finance points to the "zero marginal cost" nature of renewables as one of the factors putting pressure on the viability of coal. As Mike noted back in 2015 (the only year to beat the current one for coal plant closures), the fact that solar and wind have extremely low marginal costs once they are up and running means they can afford to undercut coal for baseload power at almost any price—leading to what some have referred to as "death by capacity factor".
When I wrote about Spanish miners embracing the closure of mines, one commenter questioned my assertion that US coal was declining too. And they were right—at least as far as coal production is concerned.
Consumption, and consumption capacity, however is another matter.
In fact, Bloomberg News Energy Finance (found via the good folks at Cleantechnica) reports that coal power plant closures will hit their second highest year on record, at least as far as capacity is concerned:This year’s widespread closures were headlined by the retirement of four massive Vistra plants in the ERCOT (Texas) market. Coal plants retiring this year produced 127,000 gigawatt-hours of electricity in 2017, enough to power 12 million homes.
This is more than priceless. A blue collar job paying upwards of 30 dollars per hour.....is just as good as another abundant fossil fuel. Another Truth: Even though natural gas is slowly replacing coal power plants.....COAL MINNING JOBS are up. Both the natural gas production and coal production figures being UP is indeed due to Mr. Trump ending the war on fossil fuel declared by left wing tree huggers.
I most enjoy the "high five" from the left for FRACKING...….Conclusion: yet another FALSE PREMISE...i.e., FAKE NEWS.
IDEA! Instead of playing "semantics" with FOSSEL FUELS.....if I were a progressive I would be more concerned about the near future retirement of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Regardless of what she "claims".....cancer and old age do not play political favorites. She says she is safe for another 5 years.....but taking a fall and breaking aging ribs during a normal day on the bench is anything but NORMAL and this fact tells the TRUTH. Again we find Mr. Trump in the cat birds seat. Elections have consequences in several areas.
Last edited by Ralph; 11-16-2018 at 05:51 PM.
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You are throwing darts at a Stock Board. Stop doing that. Try thinking.
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This thread is just an example of the shift we have seen in our political parties. The Democrats used to be the party of the "little guy" and the working man. Now it's mocking the working man for losing jobs and being coal miners.
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Have there been any studies done on how many people have gone through "government training" and started successful careers doing something else? It's an honest question in that i'm just curious if its been quantified.
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Some probably did, but what does that have to do with the fact that unions and many of their membership support and vote Dem?
Who's uneducated, moron?
Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.
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