cancel2 2022 (11-13-2018)
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My buddy posted this on Facebook yesterday. Admittedly I don't know enough about the subject to say whether he is correct or not. For those who have knowledge in this space what do you think?
Wildfires are nothing new. High winds are not new. What has become new is the speed and heat with which these fires burn. The non-wilderness forest floor has grown unchecked for 30+ years-human management began to slow in the 1980's - and the amount of fuel for forest fire is unprecedented. We no longer have the ability to fight these fires and defend structures and towns-the fires are too hot and they move too fast. Whether you think human management of public land is OK or not, we have been witnessing the effects of un-managing forests. Urban academia and environmental activism has forced this on people who live near publicly managed land. Populations living in the city need to remember, the water they drink and the electricity they use is as a result of human management of an otherwise natural environment. What we see in California now is the result of the spotted owl debate from the 1980's. President Trump has been tweeting about forestry management. Whether or not you agree with Trump, federal land management is not really in the control of the executive branch - it has been under the control of courts constructed by urban environmentalists to favor unmanaged public land. We need to figure out how to protect people who live near wildfire prone areas. We need to allow people who live near public lands to make forestry management decisions that benefit and safeguard their local community - media outlets have used this issue to win votes in urban areas while people in rural areas have suffered the consequences. This 1980's issue of the "spotted owl" has now come full circle. Time to wake up, urban California. You are paying for it, you are breathing it - you are seeing entire communities destroyed because of it.
cancel2 2022 (11-13-2018)
Allow me to clean that up, it's really spot on the money but a tad hard to read!
Wildfires are nothing new. High winds are not new. What has become new is the speed and heat with which these fires burn. The non-wilderness forest floor has grown unchecked for 30+ years-human management began to slow in the 1980's - and the amount of fuel for forest fire is unprecedented.
We no longer have the ability to fight these fires and defend structures and towns-the fires are too hot and they move too fast. Whether you think human management of public land is OK or not, we have been witnessing the effects of un-managing forests. Urban academia and environmental activism has forced this on people who live near publicly managed land. Populations living in the city need to remember, the water they drink and the electricity they use is as a result of human management of an otherwise natural environment.
What we see in California now is the result of the Spotted Owl debate from the 1980's. President Trump has been tweeting about forestry management. Whether or not you agree with Trump, federal land management is not really in the control of the executive branch - it has been under the control of courts constructed by urban environmentalists to favor unmanaged public land. We need to figure out how to protect people who live near wildfire prone areas. We need to allow people who live near public lands to make forestry management decisions that benefit and safeguard their local community.
Media outlets have used this issue to win votes in urban areas while people in rural areas have suffered the consequences. This 1980's issue of the "Spotted Owl" has now come full circle.
Time to wake up, urban California. You are paying for it, you are breathing it - you are seeing entire communities destroyed because of it.
Last edited by cancel2 2022; 11-13-2018 at 04:39 PM.
cawacko (11-13-2018)
Dude. The Problem is all these assholes migrating to California and cluttering up the place. Everybody is forced to move eastward away from the Coast and settle in these natural wooded areas. There's always been 'fires' there, THAT was how the forests were 'managed'. Now, I have the Plan, and I've mentioned it before but nobody wants to step up to the plate on this.
We get Trains with a hundred Box Cars attached, everybody NOT born in California is crammed into these Box Cars (with people like Truth Detector first in line) and sent East, like to Maine or somewhere even further. Then, the Trains are unloaded ... and burned so they don't come back.
Screw Commiefornia. Let it burn
MAGA MAN (11-13-2018)
The State. The State
The State is on FIRE
WE DONT NEED NO WATER LET THE MOTHERFUCKER BURN
BURN MOTHERFUCKER BURN!!!!
Too much fuel. Am I the only one who sees the obvious solution here?The non-wilderness forest floor has grown unchecked for 30+ years-human management began to slow in the 1980's - and the amount of fuel for forest fire is unprecedented.
cancel2 2022 (11-13-2018)
Bull shit. You couldn't afford the freight just like the rest of the jackals in here that think moving illegals out to set up a White America is some kind of solution. The country was great, is great, and always has been great in spite of fuck ups like you. Whether it remains great depends on how soon we can get rid of the trash like Trump, you, and the other low IQ supporters of ignorance.
"2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"
Guno צְבִי (11-14-2018)
Guno צְבִי (11-14-2018)
the fires are in areas outside cities and suburbs. These are not forests burning but cities and suburbs. This is not a forest management problem but a disaster due to super dry wood and brush caused by months without rain.
I hoped an earthquake would destroy Cal
But a fire is also ok!
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