Members banned from this thread: evince, Truth Detector, CFM, Lightbringer, TTQ64 and reagansghost


Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 17

Thread: California Wildfires

  1. #1 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    62,893
    Thanks
    3,736
    Thanked 20,386 Times in 14,102 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 649 Times in 616 Posts

    Default California Wildfires

    My buddy posted this on Facebook yesterday. Admittedly I don't know enough about the subject to say whether he is correct or not. For those who have knowledge in this space what do you think?



    Wildfires are nothing new. High winds are not new. What has become new is the speed and heat with which these fires burn. The non-wilderness forest floor has grown unchecked for 30+ years-human management began to slow in the 1980's - and the amount of fuel for forest fire is unprecedented. We no longer have the ability to fight these fires and defend structures and towns-the fires are too hot and they move too fast. Whether you think human management of public land is OK or not, we have been witnessing the effects of un-managing forests. Urban academia and environmental activism has forced this on people who live near publicly managed land. Populations living in the city need to remember, the water they drink and the electricity they use is as a result of human management of an otherwise natural environment. What we see in California now is the result of the spotted owl debate from the 1980's. President Trump has been tweeting about forestry management. Whether or not you agree with Trump, federal land management is not really in the control of the executive branch - it has been under the control of courts constructed by urban environmentalists to favor unmanaged public land. We need to figure out how to protect people who live near wildfire prone areas. We need to allow people who live near public lands to make forestry management decisions that benefit and safeguard their local community - media outlets have used this issue to win votes in urban areas while people in rural areas have suffered the consequences. This 1980's issue of the "spotted owl" has now come full circle. Time to wake up, urban California. You are paying for it, you are breathing it - you are seeing entire communities destroyed because of it.

  2. The Following User Says Thank You to cawacko For This Post:

    cancel2 2022 (11-13-2018)

  3. #2 | Top
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    108,120
    Thanks
    60,501
    Thanked 35,051 Times in 26,519 Posts
    Groans
    47,393
    Groaned 4,742 Times in 4,521 Posts
    Blog Entries
    61

    Default

    Allow me to clean that up, it's really spot on the money but a tad hard to read!

    Wildfires are nothing new. High winds are not new. What has become new is the speed and heat with which these fires burn. The non-wilderness forest floor has grown unchecked for 30+ years-human management began to slow in the 1980's - and the amount of fuel for forest fire is unprecedented.

    We no longer have the ability to fight these fires and defend structures and towns-the fires are too hot and they move too fast. Whether you think human management of public land is OK or not, we have been witnessing the effects of un-managing forests. Urban academia and environmental activism has forced this on people who live near publicly managed land. Populations living in the city need to remember, the water they drink and the electricity they use is as a result of human management of an otherwise natural environment.

    What we see in California now is the result of the Spotted Owl debate from the 1980's. President Trump has been tweeting about forestry management. Whether or not you agree with Trump, federal land management is not really in the control of the executive branch - it has been under the control of courts constructed by urban environmentalists to favor unmanaged public land. We need to figure out how to protect people who live near wildfire prone areas. We need to allow people who live near public lands to make forestry management decisions that benefit and safeguard their local community.

    Media outlets have used this issue to win votes in urban areas while people in rural areas have suffered the consequences. This 1980's issue of the "Spotted Owl" has now come full circle.

    Time to wake up, urban California. You are paying for it, you are breathing it - you are seeing entire communities destroyed because of it.
    Last edited by cancel2 2022; 11-13-2018 at 04:39 PM.

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to cancel2 2022 For This Post:

    cawacko (11-13-2018)

  5. #3 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Posts
    47,509
    Thanks
    17,005
    Thanked 13,151 Times in 10,077 Posts
    Groans
    452
    Groaned 2,450 Times in 2,265 Posts
    Blog Entries
    2

    Default

    Dude. The Problem is all these assholes migrating to California and cluttering up the place. Everybody is forced to move eastward away from the Coast and settle in these natural wooded areas. There's always been 'fires' there, THAT was how the forests were 'managed'. Now, I have the Plan, and I've mentioned it before but nobody wants to step up to the plate on this.
    We get Trains with a hundred Box Cars attached, everybody NOT born in California is crammed into these Box Cars (with people like Truth Detector first in line) and sent East, like to Maine or somewhere even further. Then, the Trains are unloaded ... and burned so they don't come back.


    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    My buddy posted this on Facebook yesterday. Admittedly I don't know enough about the subject to say whether he is correct or not. For those who have knowledge in this space what do you think?



    Wildfires are nothing new. High winds are not new. What has become new is the speed and heat with which these fires burn. The non-wilderness forest floor has grown unchecked for 30+ years-human management began to slow in the 1980's - and the amount of fuel for forest fire is unprecedented. We no longer have the ability to fight these fires and defend structures and towns-the fires are too hot and they move too fast. Whether you think human management of public land is OK or not, we have been witnessing the effects of un-managing forests. Urban academia and environmental activism has forced this on people who live near publicly managed land. Populations living in the city need to remember, the water they drink and the electricity they use is as a result of human management of an otherwise natural environment. What we see in California now is the result of the spotted owl debate from the 1980's. President Trump has been tweeting about forestry management. Whether or not you agree with Trump, federal land management is not really in the control of the executive branch - it has been under the control of courts constructed by urban environmentalists to favor unmanaged public land. We need to figure out how to protect people who live near wildfire prone areas. We need to allow people who live near public lands to make forestry management decisions that benefit and safeguard their local community - media outlets have used this issue to win votes in urban areas while people in rural areas have suffered the consequences. This 1980's issue of the "spotted owl" has now come full circle. Time to wake up, urban California. You are paying for it, you are breathing it - you are seeing entire communities destroyed because of it.

  6. #4 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Realville
    Posts
    31,850
    Thanks
    1,475
    Thanked 6,520 Times in 5,217 Posts
    Groans
    779
    Groaned 2,477 Times in 2,299 Posts

    Default

    Screw Commiefornia. Let it burn

  7. The Following User Says Thank You to canceled.2021.1 For This Post:

    MAGA MAN (11-13-2018)

  8. #5 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Realville
    Posts
    31,850
    Thanks
    1,475
    Thanked 6,520 Times in 5,217 Posts
    Groans
    779
    Groaned 2,477 Times in 2,299 Posts

    Default

    The State. The State

    The State is on FIRE

    WE DONT NEED NO WATER LET THE MOTHERFUCKER BURN

    BURN MOTHERFUCKER BURN!!!!

  9. #6 | Top
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    40,213
    Thanks
    14,475
    Thanked 23,679 Times in 16,485 Posts
    Groans
    23
    Groaned 585 Times in 561 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Dude. The Problem is all these assholes migrating to California and cluttering up the place. Everybody is forced to move eastward away from the Coast and settle in these natural wooded areas. There's always been 'fires' there, THAT was how the forests were 'managed'. Now, I have the Plan, and I've mentioned it before but nobody wants to step up to the plate on this.
    We get Trains with a hundred Box Cars attached, everybody NOT born in California is crammed into these Box Cars (with people like Truth Detector first in line) and sent East, like to Maine or somewhere even further. Then, the Trains are unloaded ... and burned so they don't come back.
    Screw that. Keep them out there. This side of the coast had enough transplants fucking things up! !

  10. #7 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Posts
    47,509
    Thanks
    17,005
    Thanked 13,151 Times in 10,077 Posts
    Groans
    452
    Groaned 2,450 Times in 2,265 Posts
    Blog Entries
    2

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Screw that. Keep them out there. This side of the coast had enough transplants fucking things up! !
    OK. We containerize them and send them to Australia. Happy NOW?

  11. #8 | Top
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    40,213
    Thanks
    14,475
    Thanked 23,679 Times in 16,485 Posts
    Groans
    23
    Groaned 585 Times in 561 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    OK. We containerize them and send them to Australia. Happy NOW?
    Yes. Thank you. Take the ones from the East Coast as well and I will ship for nothing! My contribution to this great country.

  12. #9 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Posts
    47,509
    Thanks
    17,005
    Thanked 13,151 Times in 10,077 Posts
    Groans
    452
    Groaned 2,450 Times in 2,265 Posts
    Blog Entries
    2

    Default


  13. #10 | Top
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    The Blue Ridge
    Posts
    37,741
    Thanks
    21,918
    Thanked 12,581 Times in 9,703 Posts
    Groans
    4,312
    Groaned 1,312 Times in 1,210 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    The non-wilderness forest floor has grown unchecked for 30+ years-human management began to slow in the 1980's - and the amount of fuel for forest fire is unprecedented.
    Too much fuel. Am I the only one who sees the obvious solution here?

  14. The Following User Says Thank You to MAGA MAN For This Post:

    cancel2 2022 (11-13-2018)

  15. #11 | Top
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    La Pine, Oregon
    Posts
    5,218
    Thanks
    26
    Thanked 1,548 Times in 1,137 Posts
    Groans
    0
    Groaned 215 Times in 201 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Yes. Thank you. Take the ones from the East Coast as well and I will ship for nothing! My contribution to this great country.
    Bull shit. You couldn't afford the freight just like the rest of the jackals in here that think moving illegals out to set up a White America is some kind of solution. The country was great, is great, and always has been great in spite of fuck ups like you. Whether it remains great depends on how soon we can get rid of the trash like Trump, you, and the other low IQ supporters of ignorance.
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

  16. The Following User Says Thank You to Old Trapper For This Post:

    Guno צְבִי (11-14-2018)

  17. #12 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Posts
    262
    Thanks
    12
    Thanked 148 Times in 108 Posts
    Groans
    0
    Groaned 8 Times in 8 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    The State. The State

    The State is on FIRE

    WE DONT NEED NO WATER LET THE MOTHERFUCKER BURN

    BURN MOTHERFUCKER BURN!!!!
    Let me guess. Trump voter, right?

  18. The Following User Says Thank You to DebraDoesDonald For This Post:

    Guno צְבִי (11-14-2018)

  19. #13 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2017
    Posts
    53,923
    Thanks
    254
    Thanked 24,835 Times in 17,266 Posts
    Groans
    5,349
    Groaned 4,601 Times in 4,278 Posts

    Default

    the fires are in areas outside cities and suburbs. These are not forests burning but cities and suburbs. This is not a forest management problem but a disaster due to super dry wood and brush caused by months without rain.

  20. #14 | Top
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Location
    Lansing Ks
    Posts
    34,184
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 14,637 Times in 10,063 Posts
    Groans
    0
    Groaned 1,101 Times in 1,013 Posts

    Default

    I hoped an earthquake would destroy Cal

    But a fire is also ok!

  21. #15 | Top
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    40,213
    Thanks
    14,475
    Thanked 23,679 Times in 16,485 Posts
    Groans
    23
    Groaned 585 Times in 561 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    Bull shit. You couldn't afford the freight just like the rest of the jackals in here that think moving illegals out to set up a White America is some kind of solution. The country was great, is great, and always has been great in spite of fuck ups like you. Whether it remains great depends on how soon we can get rid of the trash like Trump, you, and the other low IQ supporters of ignorance.
    You are such an angry old fuck. Being a fake vet I can see why.

Similar Threads

  1. Wildfires made worse by climate change
    By tff in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 08-01-2018, 04:09 PM
  2. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 10-19-2017, 09:51 PM
  3. Guns blamed for sparking some wildfires
    By Guns Guns Guns in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 07-04-2012, 02:58 PM
  4. Wildfires and CO2
    By tinfoil in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 11-01-2007, 08:10 AM
  5. Wildfires: Terrorist attack?
    By Chapdog in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: 10-25-2007, 09:20 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Rules

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •