Has a Brexit deal been done?

[iolo]

Doesn't matter if they want a hard brexit or not. There are too many cats to herd, and as I have said before, the EU is not going to let the UK exit without british fingers slammed in the door to discourage the other countries that are considering it from even thinking about it again.

The main question is whether the EU will let us back in. I doubt it rather.

[moon]

Of course you're far too stupid to realise that the EU would stop much of Corbyn's agenda under state subsidy rules.

You spout nonsense maggot- Tory nonsense.

[Irish Exit]

The main question is whether the EU will let us back in. I doubt it rather.

Depends on how willing the UK would be to give up the pound would be my guess.

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Depends on how willing the UK would be to give up the pound would be my guess.

Nobody in their right mind wants to be part of the Eurozone, well apart from Welsh fools like Iolo of course.

[moon]

Nobody in their right mind wants to be part of the Eurozone, well apart from Welsh fools like Iolo of course.

Also most of the English, most of the Scots, most of the Northern Irish and most of the Free Irish. You're part of a scared and xenophobic minority, maggot. They'll be a-coming to get ya.

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Also most of the English, most of the Scots, most of the Northern Irish and most of the Free Irish. You're part of a scared and xenophobic minority, maggot. They'll be a-coming to get ya.

We're not in the Eurozone, cockroach!

[iolo]

Depends on how willing the UK would be to give up the pound would be my guess.

Who can tell. If you're up Shit Creek without a paddle, strange things occur.

[Irish Exit]

Who can tell. If you're up Shit Creek without a paddle, strange things occur.

More or less. From what I have read, a British re-entry would likely require the UK to give up the pound, forfeit all the special exceptions it carved out for itself in the original Brexit design, and surrender completely to EU laws and regulations. Likely one of the reasons many who voted to remain think that they now have no choice but to exit--staying would have a high price as well.

[iolo]

The Brexiteers will just say they are making it all up and go on demanding Christmas every day at EU expense as nature intended. I am practicing my Irish accent: there are lots of Irish people in this Valley from whom I can claim descent when I apply for citizenship!

[Jack]

Nobody in their right mind wants to be part of the Eurozone, well apart from Welsh fools like Iolo of course.

Hey. If Iolo is from Wales, ask him if he ever heard of Llangerig, Montgomeryshire, Wales. I've got a distant relative that came over here in 1708 (with his 10 kids and wife) from there. His name was Richard George and he was a Quaker (Society of Friends).

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More or less. From what I have read, a British re-entry would likely require the UK to give up the pound, forfeit all the special exceptions it carved out for itself in the original Brexit design, and surrender completely to EU laws and regulations. Likely one of the reasons many who voted to remain think that they now have no choice but to exit--staying would have a high price as well.

The EU wants to have approval of all Eurozone budgets after 2021, so they can tighten their grip even more. Only morons and Marxists would go along with that bollocks. Of course, it would also mean that Corbyn's Cavaliers wouldn't get a budget approved at all. Sadly fools like Iolo are totally unaware of that fact.

[iolo]

Hey. If Iolo is from Wales, ask him if he ever heard of Llangerig, Montgomeryshire, Wales. I've got a distant relative that came over here in 1708 (with his 10 kids and wife) from there. His name was Richard George and he was a Quaker (Society of Friends).

Why don't you ask him yourself? Quakers here suffered more extreme persecution that in England, so a great number went to Pennsylvania, which is why you had a 'Welsh Tract'. Wonder if your man was related to Lloyd George. It is (obviously) not at all a common 'Welsh' name.

[Irish Exit]

The EU wants to have approval of all Eurozone budgets after 2021, so they can tighten their grip even more. Only morons and Marxists would go along with that bollocks. Of course, it would also men that Corbyn's Cavaliers would get a budget approved at all. Sadly fools like Iolo are totally unaware of that fact.

TBH I was unaware as well, but the end result of the union as always been an inevitable political unification of its members into a single nation state. They will become comparable to US states as opposed to independent nations.

[Jack]

Why don't you ask him yourself? Quakers here suffered more extreme persecution that in England, so a great number went to Pennsylvania, which is why you had a 'Welsh Tract'. Wonder if your man was related to Lloyd George. It is (obviously) not at all a common 'Welsh' name.

He did go to Chester, Pennsylvania (a little south of Philadelphia). Then, on to Berks County, PA.
His father was supposedly 'George George' from Llangerig.
His wife supposedly had a father named 'Ellis Ellis' from Llangelynn, County Merionethshire, Wales.
Any of those names or places sound familiar? (I can't even pronounce them)

I just found out that William Penn was a Quaker. (Along with Thomas Paine)

[iolo]

He did go to Chester, Pennsylvania (a little south of Philadelphia). Then, on to Berks County, PA.
His father was supposedly 'George George' from Llangerig.
His wife supposedly had a father named 'Ellis Ellis' from Llangelynn, County Merionethshire, Wales.
Any of those names or places sound familiar? (I can't even pronounce them)

I just found out that William Penn was a Quaker. (Along with Thomas Paine)

They're small places. I know of them, but have never been to either, as far as I know. I'll check on them. The pronunciations aren't difficult - the letter 'll' (in 'Llan' - Ellis is anglicised) is the only problem for foreigners, and all you have to do is put your tongue to say 'l' then breathe hard. 'Llan' was originally an enclosure where monks lived, and it came to mean 'church' so probably, 'church of the rocks' and, perhaps, 'church of holly'.

We'd call them 'George Twice' and 'Ellis Twice'. I don't think Tom Paine was a Quaker, though Penn certainly was. I attended for a long time, but never became a member.