With Trump sitting nearby, Macron calls nationalism a betrayal

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A patriot and a nationalist take pride in and give their allegiance to their nation.
I believe even the French have a national anthem and salute their own flag. Most countries do.

Do you think of yourself as a Nationalist or a patriot?

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I am a patriot, I have never thought of myself as a nationalist. When did you start calling yourself a nationalist? I bet he has been...oh let's see, maybe since Trump made it cool?

The left has made this a bogus p.c. issue for the last year. Mainly the uneducated millennials. THEY started this nonsense by confusing the 2 words 'national' and 'supreme'. Anything for division and a fight.

[mak2]

The left has made this a bogus p.c. issue for the last year. Mainly the uneducated millennials. THEY started this nonsense by confusing the 2 words 'national' and 'supreme'. Anything for division and a fight.

I am asking you. When did you start thinking of yourself as a nationalist instead of a patriot?

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The left has made this a bogus p.c. issue for the last year. Mainly the uneducated millennials. THEY started this nonsense by confusing the 2 words 'national' and 'supreme'. Anything for division and a fight.

Um, nationalism means you feel superiority about your nation.

This is kind of amazing. You have no idea what the difference between nationalism & patriotism is.

This is not "PC."

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You're an idiot.. When Nationalism rears its head things get ugly..

Yes I know. The lefty snowflakes cooked up this latest division over the last year or so.
It's been a common inoffensive term used for years when determining the national roots of people. Go watch old spy movies. You hear descriptions like, "He's a French national" or "She's an Egyptian national."
Big deal.

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Yes I know. The lefty snowflakes cooked up this latest division over the last year or so.
It's been a common inoffensive term used for years when determining the national roots of people. Go watch old spy movies. You hear descriptions like, "He's a French national" or "She's an Egyptian national."
Big deal.

That's not the same as nationalism.

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Yes I know. The lefty snowflakes cooked up this latest division over the last year or so.
It's been a common inoffensive term used for years when determining the national roots of people. Go watch old spy movies. You hear descriptions like, "He's a French national" or "She's an Egyptian national."
Big deal.

This is sad and embaressing for you. being a citizen of a nation (national) is not nationalism. Admit it, Trump just uses the phrase because even he wont refer to himself as a White Nationalist. At least not yet.

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The worst example ever of Nationalism is Hitler's Nazi Germany- Toto's japan another! After all, Toto invented the Suicide Bomber and successfully pulled off the world's worst terrorist attack ever- Pearl Harbor!

Wait a minute. Perhaps these are the best examples of how Nationalism can go negative rather quickly and can be feared by the world.

Yeah, those would be supremacists.....they feel they are supreme and all other races and religions of their choosing should be annihilated.

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A patriot and a nationalist take pride in and give their allegiance to their nation.
I believe even the French have a national anthem and salute their own flag. Most countries do.

You don't know any better. You don't know the nationalists in history or the nationalistic regimes.


"What is patriotism? Let us begin with what patriotism is not. It is not patriotic to dodge the draft and to mock war heroes and their families. It is not patriotic to discriminate against active-duty members of the armed forces in one's companies, or to campaign to keep disabled veterans away from one's property.

It is not patriotic to compare one's search for sexual partners in New York with the military service in Vietnam that one has dodged.

It is not patriotic to avoid paying taxes, especially when American working families do pay. It is not patriotic to ask those working, taxpaying American families to finance one's own presidential campaign, and then to spend their contributions in one's own companies. It is not patriotic to admire foreign dictators.

It is not patriotic to cultivate a relationship with Muammar Gaddafi; or to say that Bashar al-Assad and Vladimir Putin are superior leaders.

It is not patriotic to call upon Russia to intervene in an American presidential election. It is not patriotic to cite Russian propaganda at rallies." Timothy Snyder https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33917107-on-tyranny

[Adolf_Twitler]

When Daniel Webster wrote the dictionary, Nationalism was defined as having a pride in one's nation and be willing to die for it, while rallying around the flagpole and all that.

But through the years, Nationalism has taken on negative connotations to become a main thrust of Hate Groups, and more a pride of race and religious belief than it's original meaning intended.

Today both Israel and Palestine have used Nationalism as a force to hate and kill each other while carrying out their religious war.

Nazi Germany and Japan used Nationalism for world dominance and killing or eradicating people (domicide) that didn't look or pray like them.

And terrorist regimes such as Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and Hamas use nationalism to recruit terrorists and carry out their terrorism.

So, you have to be very careful how you use the term today, and most people agree it should "Not" be used to describe American Foreign, Domestic, or Immigration policy at all, due to all the semantics involved with the term itself.

Basically, it scares Americans as well as other countries that have been victimized by Hate Groups, Nationalist Regimes, and Terrorist groups.

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Do you think of yourself as a Nationalist or a patriot?

In the legal, literal and birthright sense I am an American National, therefore a Nationalist...no weird new p.c. meaning. Remember I'm 66 years old and have never (until now) seen anyone treat the word as something derogatory.
In the personally decided political sense I am a patriot who does actually love America and our Constitution. I come from a Navy family who was born here (Nationals) and loved America (patriots).

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I am a patriot, I have never thought of myself as a nationalist. When did you start calling yourself a nationalist? I bet he has been...oh let's see, maybe since Trump made it cool?

A good insight.

Trump's fan boys never used, or even contemplated using the words "nationalism", or "deep state" until Trump and his rightwing proxies ordered them too.

I have been posting on political message boards for almost two decades, and none of these rightwing posters were ever using the word nationalist to describe themselves in any sustained and measurable way. Until Trump told them to.

It is a sign of a weak and pliable mind that one cannot think for themselves, and one has to parrot whatever their Hero tells them to think.

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Um, nationalism means you feel superiority about your nation.

This is kind of amazing. You have no idea what the difference between nationalism & patriotism is.

This is not "PC."

LOL. Um...no...a supremacist feels supreme.

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The left has made this a bogus p.c. issue for the last year. Mainly the uneducated millennials. THEY started this nonsense by confusing the 2 words 'national' and 'supreme'. Anything for division and a fight.

I love "anti"-PC warriors who shat themselves the instant they're disagreed with. Why, you didn't bow to the righteous PC construct.

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LOL. Um...no...a supremacist feels supreme.

You don't know what the word "nationalism" means, at all.

Why are you even spending time in this discussion? Read up on it & learn what it means first.