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    So because I am always re-evaluating how I look at things, I will provide my own self analysis of what I got wrong and what I think I got right about last night's election

    There was definitely a Kavanaugh effect in the Senate. So far every democrat that voted against Kavanaugh went down in flames. The only one to survive so far is Manchin and he voted to confirm. Jury still out on Tester. So I got that right

    I also was right about this not being a BIG BLUE WAVE or TSUNAMI. Those on the left who now claim that nobody ever predicted it are not being honest.

    This is what I got wrong. I mistakenly believed that the anger about Kavanaugh would extend outside of the Senate races and would bleed over into other House races. I thought that voters would punish democrats in general for the actions of Senate democrats. It was the only reason I thought the GOP had a chance of holding the House despite all of their headwinds heading into election day.

    This election reminded me once again that voters have an amazing ability to compartmentalize. It is fascinating to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    So because I am always re-evaluating how I look at things, I will provide my own self analysis of what I got wrong and what I think I got right about last night's election

    There was definitely a Kavanaugh effect in the Senate. So far every democrat that voted against Kavanaugh went down in flames.
    The only one to survive so far is Manchin and he voted to confirm. Jury still out on Tester. So I got that right

    I also was right about this not being a BIG BLUE WAVE or TSUNAMI. Those on the left who now claim that nobody ever predicted it are not being honest.

    This is what I got wrong. I mistakenly believed that the anger about Kavanaugh would extend outside of the Senate races and would bleed over into other House races. I thought that voters would punish democrats in general for the actions of Senate democrats. It was the only reason I thought the GOP had a chance of holding the House despite all of their headwinds heading into election day.

    This election reminded me once again that voters have an amazing ability to compartmentalize. It is fascinating to watch.
    ^ Absolutely wrong.

    The following voted against Kavanaugh and won:

    Brown
    Cantwell
    Cardin
    Carper
    Casey
    Feinstein
    Gillibrand
    Heinrich
    Hirono
    Kaine
    King
    Klobuchar
    Menendez
    Murphy
    Sanders
    Smith
    Stabenow
    Tester
    Warren
    Whitehouse

    The following voted for Kavanaugh and lost:

    Donnelly
    Heitkamp
    McCaskill
    #NotMyPresident





    ...trump had one overriding problem that Dowd knew but could not bring himself to say to the president: "You're a fucking liar."


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    ^ Absolutely wrong.

    The following voted against Kavanaugh and won:

    Brown
    Cantwell
    Cardin
    Carper
    Casey
    Feinstein
    Gillibrand
    Heinrich
    Hirono
    Kaine
    King
    Klobuchar
    Menendez
    Murphy
    Sanders
    Smith
    Stabenow
    Tester
    Warren
    Whitehouse

    The following voted for Kavanaugh and lost:

    Donnelly
    Heitkamp
    McCaskill
    i think he's referring to close obviously contested races christie...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blue Wave Failed View Post
    i think he's referring to close obviously contested races christie...
    I was. I thought it was fairly obvious, but I guess not. Yes, I would have thought that Elizabeth Warren would have lost her election for voting against Kavanaugh.

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    One other thing to note, is that while both sides have things to cheer about from Tuesday night, both sides need to do some soul searching.

    Both sides were rejected by a large part of America. While I do like Trump's fighting style, it is obviously costing him in large areas of the country

    Additionally both sides cost themselves winnable seats by going to hard to the left and right respectively. There were a number of GOP seats that Trump was instrumental in primarying and the primary winner eventually went on to lose. One example I can think of is Mark Sanford.

    The left did the same thing. Ron Desantis was a pretty weak candidate for Governor. It was a very winnable seat for dems in Florida, but they blew it with a far left candidate. Same thing in Georgia.

    The question is what lessons will each side learn from the election if any. Early signs from the left is that they learned nothing. They have spleens to vent and they are going to do it with endless investigations. They are infatuated almost obsessed with Trumps tax returns. The majority of the country really doesn't care about them at this point. But, the democrats are going to press ahead.

    It seems we are in a state of politics the last two decades of voters going between parties thinking "well right now this one sucks least"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    I was. I thought it was fairly obvious, but I guess not. Yes, I would have thought that Elizabeth Warren would have lost her election for voting against Kavanaugh.
    I just don't see a "Kavanaugh effect" which to me means that most who voted against Kavanaugh would have lost the election because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    I just don't see a "Kavanaugh effect" which to me means that most who voted against Kavanaugh would have lost the election because of it.
    And he stated quite clearly: "So far every democrat that voted against Kavanaugh went down in flames."

    Now he wants to pretend that means something else,,,

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