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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Keep and bear arms to what end?

    Is the Queen of England planning another invasion?
    the inevitable violence that you lefties claim is going to happen from all the unhinged conservatives that can't handle trump being impeached
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    the inevitable violence that you lefties claim is going to happen
    it's already happening.

    You MAGAts shot up a temple, a Kroger, a concert, schools, etc.

    You run people over with your cars; you send mail bombs to your political enemies...

    It would seem you're using the 2nd Amendment so you can wage your soft Civil War.

    Funny how gun control advocates now make up a majority of reps in the House.

    27 NRA-backed politicians lost.

    17 "A"-rated NRA Republicans were replaced with 17 politicians that got "F" ratings from the NRA, including Gingrich/Price's old seat in Georgia.


    unhinged conservatives that can't handle trump being impeached
    Well, without Trump being impeached, you MAGAts have attacked temples, concerts, schools, supermarkets, etc. You run people over with cars. You send pipe bombs through the mail.

    Seems to me you're already acting violently.
    When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist


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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    it's already happening.

    You MAGAts shot up a temple, a Kroger, a concert, schools, etc.
    you magats?? whose you magats?


    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Well, without Trump being impeached, you MAGAts have attacked temples, concerts, schools, supermarkets, etc. You run people over with cars. You send pipe bombs through the mail.

    Seems to me you're already acting violently.
    again, whose 'you magats'???? is that anyone not standing beside you whining about trump?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    you magats?? whose you magats?
    MAGAts.

    That's who.

    Conservatives, Trump voters, Bush voters, teabags, whatever the fuck you're calling yourselves today...



    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    again, whose 'you magats'???? is that anyone not standing beside you whining about trump?
    If you don't utter "Fuck Trump" at least twice a day, I find you of dubious moral character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    MAGAts.

    That's who.

    Conservatives, Trump voters, Bush voters, teabags, whatever the fuck you're calling yourselves today...
    so, in your mind, there can be only one way, left or right. is that about it?

    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    If you don't utter "Fuck Trump" at least twice a day, I find you of dubious moral character.
    and if you don't utter "Fuck Hillary" at least twice a day, I find you of the most reprehensible character.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Ex-cons who have paid their price to society for their crimes, should have never been disallowed to vote.

    And since stealing, lying, cheating, sexual crimes, corruption, hate crimes, racketeering, tax fraud, tax evasion, and treasonous acts are all Republican attributes now, you'd think the Republicans would be looking forward to the new change in the law!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    so, in your mind, there can be only one way, left or right. is that about it?
    It's not left vs. right.

    It's democracy vs. fascism.

    If you are moderate on fascism, then you're a fascist. There is no moderation on Nazis and fascists. If there are 10 people at a table talking with 1 Nazi, then you have a table of 11 Nazis.

    (Nazis are the bad guys, by the way...not sure if you know that)


    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    nd if you don't utter "Fuck Hillary" at least twice a day, I find you of the most reprehensible character.
    Hillary isn't even in office and is a private citizen. You running back to her like this shows how scared you are. You have to relive old glories to avoid dealing with the present reality.

    Also, weak fucking sauce plagiarizing my post because you were mentally and emotionally incapable of coming up with your own retort. I take it as a compliment that my comment stung you so deeply that the only thing you could do was plagiarize it in your response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    so, in your mind, there can be only one way, left or right. is that about it?



    and if you don't utter "Fuck Hillary" at least twice a day, I find you of the most reprehensible character.
    You need help getting over your Hillary obsession. Pssst, she holds no office now, she’s living rent free in your head. She doesn’t know or care about you. Good Luck, I know Hillary Obseession can be quite debilitating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    It's not left vs. right.

    It's democracy vs. fascism.

    If you are moderate on fascism, then you're a fascist. There is no moderation on Nazis and fascists. If there are 10 people at a table talking with 1 Nazi, then you have a table of 11 Nazis.

    (Nazis are the bad guys, by the way...not sure if you know that)
    you sound like George W. Bush. you're either with us, or with the terrorists. you like the war on terror?


    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Hillary isn't even in office and is a private citizen. You running back to her like this shows how scared you are. You have to relive old glories to avoid dealing with the present reality.

    Also, weak fucking sauce plagiarizing my post because you were mentally and emotionally incapable of coming up with your own retort. I take it as a compliment that my comment stung you so deeply that the only thing you could do was plagiarize it in your response.
    ROFL, you are one weak little man.

    you should read the following article. I think it applies to you very well.

    http://www.jewishworldreview.com/julia/gorin030802.asp
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    You need help getting over your Hillary obsession. Pssst, she holds no office now, she’s living rent free in your head. She doesn’t know or care about you. Good Luck, I know Hillary Obseession can be quite debilitating.
    HAHAHAHA, did you forget I voted for Johnson? I considered the 2016 election one in which the Ds and Rs apparently challenged each other to find the worst possible candidate to run. The Ds won that challenge, but only by a small margin. and since you lacked the intelligence to see the stab at hypocrisy that I leveled at LV123, I used hillary only as an equivalent remark to his idiocies fascist bullshit
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    you sound like George W. Bush. you're either with us, or with the terrorists. you like the war on terror?
    No. I liked WWII, though.


    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    Everyone knows you buy a gun as a replacement for your penis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Congrats Bigdog....you still rank as one of JPP's least literate posters.

    You bloody moron! The overwhelming majority of States return voting rights to convicts after they have completed their sentences and probation/parole.

    There are only a handful of States that do permanently disqualifies felons. If you weren't such a moron you'd see the obvious reason why the vast majority of States do restore voting rights.

    You're fucking hilarious Dog. Do you ever vet your stupid assed posts? LOL LOL LOL What a maroon! LOL
    I already posted that all they had to do to vote ... was just move to another State.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    "I already posted that all they had to do to vote ... was just move to another State." Bd #177

    "You can run, but you can't hide." Paul Harvey

    One of the things I find so interesting about the Bd #177 quotation is, members of the terrorist caravan slowly advancing on the U.S. Southern border are refugees.
    These refugees have been criticized in these fora for not staying home, and defeating the drug mafia in their own native nation.

    But for some reason for voting rights, a change of venue is an acceptable solution.

    An obvious double standard. But it's a Republican loyalist double standard. Why am I not surprised?
    "It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    I quite well understand how low IQ individuals like you lack the understanding to face reality. In that situation you actually have to know how to read, and comprehend words with more them 4 letters, and you actually have to read sources of information. Like this one:


    Intergenerational Justice in the United States Constitution,
    The Stewardship Doctrine:
    II. The Intergenerational Philosophy of the Founders and Their Contemporaries
    B. Generational Sovereignty and the Land – The Earth as Tenancy-in-Common - Thomas Jefferson's Usufruct and Entail

    If the earth is truly viewed as an intergenerational commons, there are serious implications for the law governing estates and the descent of lands. Indeed, fervent debates were occurring in regards to estate law during the late 18th century. Those debates focused primarily on the institutions of entail f144 and primogeniture. f145

    The practice of entail was problematic from the perspective of intergenerational ethics. On the one hand, entail could be viewed as an archaic, feudal practice imposed by earlier generations, which violated later generations' sovereignty over the land. f146 Entail and primogeniture imposed potentially perpetual restraints on the alienation of land, and could result in useful agricultural land being tied up indefinitely. The institution was therefore resented by progressives sympathetic to the free market economics being advocated by Adam Smith and others. f147 In language quite suggestive to the modern ear, Smith suggested that:

    "A power to dispose of estates for ever is manifestly absurd. The earth and the fulness of it belongs to every generation, and the preceding one can have no right to bind it up from posterity. Such extension of property is quite unnatural." f148

    On the other hand, entail was in some respects the quintessentially intergenerational institution; operating in tandem with the doctrine of waste, it compelled present landholders to respect the interests of future holders. The occupant of an entailed estate was expected to consume only the usufruct of the estate, to eschew waste, and to preserve the corpus intact and undamaged for later owners. It is this aspect of entail that Herbert Sloan has in mind when he describes Jefferson's intergenerational philosophy as "proposing a universal and perpetual entail." f149

    Unfortunately, the benefits and protections of entail were reserved for those fortunate few who held future interests in the ancestral estates. In that sense, entail treated the earth more as an intergenerational gated community than as a intergenerational commons.

    Whatever the shortcomings of the traditional entail system, is clear that the founders did not intend to abandon the principle of responsible land stewardship when they abandoned entail. The principles of stewardship were held in deep respect; the same figures who worked to abolish entail consistently used the language of waste and usufruct when explaining their intergenerational visions. But, probably due to a lack of foresight, the founders failed to develop new mechanisms for enforcing land stewardship when they dismantled the entail system.

    Some of the founders were not satisfied with curtailing entail and primogeniture; they advocated more radical measures for rectifying the imbalance in access to the intergenerational commons. Paine argued that the poor had in effect been wrongfully ousted and excluded from their natural legacy for many generations. f150 He maintained that no segment of the population ever possessed a right to the "monopoly of natural inheritance" and that, "a generous man would not wish it to continue, and a just man will rejoice to see it abolished."f151 He therefore proposed that a "ground rent" be imposed upon all real property, to be collected at the time the property passed from one person to another at death, the monies to be placed into funds for each citizen when he or she reaches the age of 21, "as a compensation in part, for the loss of his or her natural inheritance, by the introduction of the system of landed property."f152 By characterizing the charge as "ground-rent" rather than as an estate tax or property tax, Paine reinforced the idea that land ownership is not really ownership at all, but rather resembles a tenancy or trust relationship.
    And they ultimately agreed upon curtailing entail and primogeniture.
    It is clear you don't understand what you posted.

    In your socialist Libtopia who decides who gets to live on the beachfront property ... and who lives on the top of the old landfill?
    Last edited by Bigdog; 11-13-2018 at 07:05 PM.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Sear - But for some reason for voting rights, a change of venue is an acceptable solution.
    Only acceptable if it is legal, Dumbo.

    Over and over again, we see JPP liberals claim to despise Trump voters for being poor, uneducated and working class. Which is exactly what the caravan consists of.

    Now THAT is a double standard.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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