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Truth Detector (11-05-2018)
Some people are confused on this, but they shouldn't be. It's the liberal pot smokers wanting drugs to be legalized. Why on earth would libs accuse conservatives of doing drugs when it's the pot smokers within the Democrat party wanting to get stoned at every opportunity?
Truth Detector (11-05-2018)
So what? Why shouldn't young healthy people be able to decide that they don't need a Cadillac health care plan and that they would be better off with a cheaper, lower quality plan? You liberals are basically motivated by two things.
1) You think average people are too stupid to make their own choices.
2) You want to get your hands on everone else's money to fund all of your "utopian" dreams, whether we the people agree with you or not.
Irish (11-06-2018), Life is Golden (11-04-2018), Truth Detector (11-05-2018)
Yours is the problematic scenario. I personally think that there needs to be so nuance around it as best as we can. Someone I have known my entire life is basically terminal and karma is kicking his ass. Worked under the table and got government benefits for his kids, etc. He will now be dead in six months. Can't get disability because he never paid in. Can't get medicaid because he has no under-age children. Bounces from house to house because his wife divorced him after repeated affairs and he has nobody. I will probably end up paying to cremate him when the time comes but I am not supporting him or anything else until then. I don't even like him to be quite frank.
Anyway, people like that get what they get, but I see no reason we cannot insure or guarantee insurance for people with conditions who cannot carry their existing policy over to a new employer or into no employment/self-employment when they have a meaningful history of actual insurance. One example might be a wife on husband's policy who gets breast cancer and then divorced who cannot stay on her husband's employer plan. Another might be someone who developed juvenile diabetes who ages off their parents' polices. I know a woman now whose son is in law school. She says he won't have any choice but to work for the government because without the student loan write-downs there is no way he would ever be able to afford insurance off their policy because he has had so man surgeries and issues with his bowels. Some weird disease/condition not Crohns but something similar whose drugs run over a grand a month.
Young people get in more car accidents and injuries from sports and acting up. They also get sick. We should have universal healthcare. All that sweating about who should have what coverage misses the point. People should not have to worry about healthcare. It is enough to face a terrible injury or illness and not have to sweat out the family getting thrown in the street too.
mak2 (11-05-2018)
Too much of the money is wasted on administrators in the health care industry. I'd prefer my Dr. making the decisions on my care rather than some overpaid idiot at an insurance co.
The same problem exists in hospitals. My GF is an administrative assistant and makes good money, but her "boss" is a nitwit who pushes her responsibilities on the GF because she doesn't
even know how to do simple food orders (which is part of her boss's job) when the GF is on vacation, yet makes 2 1/2 times what the GF does. The GF says when her "boss" is on vacation,
no one else even notices it.
Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.
mak2 (11-05-2018)
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