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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Nope. A foreign national is under the jurisdiction of their foreign country as well. This is political jurisdiction. It is why we can deport them ONLY to their countries of origin (their nations of jurisdiction). An illegal crossing our border is a federal criminal. They have already broken U.S. law. They have no claim of political jurisdiction here. If caught, they will be deported back to their nation of political jurisdiction.
    But their children born in the U. S. are still citizens. There are millions to prove it whether their parent(s) were here legally or illegally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Donald Trump's children are natural born US citizens because they were born in the US .........
    And even if they weren't born in the U. S. they would still be natural born citizens because the parent was a citizen. Immigration law even describes children of citizens born in and out of wedlock. The details of citizenship vary based on the year born.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Did you know it's legal for a foreigner to stay at a Trump property? You're going to have to do better than that!
    But it's illegal for Trump, as President, to accept payment for that from any foreign state. Since he has refused to divest himself of those properties, or even put them in a blind trust so he's not involved in managing them, the Constitution would appear to require that foreign dignitaries or any employees of a foreign government stay at Trump properties for free.

    Which had pretty convincing evidence against Bill Clinton, now that you mention it.
    Which had nothing to do with what he was originally being investigated for. It turned into a witch hunt, something the Republicans seem to have a habit of doing.

    True. She sold it to the Russians.
    Actually, she didn't sell any uranium to anyone. You really shouldn't make your abject ignorance so obvious. Not that it wasn't already painfully obvious.

    No, the sale wasn't legal.
    And exactly how wasn't it legal?

    The Russians didn't want to export it. Even if they did, they are in control of it at that point. There are no hoops to jump through.
    More ignorance. "The current licenses – held by the US-based subsidiaries and approved by the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission – do not allow exports from any U1H US facility."
    We actually import uranium from Russia.

    WRONG. Using a private email server for communicating State Department business is in direct violation of U.S. law.
    More partisan ignorance.

    No. The electoral college handed Trump the election. Mueller is only one vote.
    His revelation that she was being investigated could reasonably be expected to have influenced many votes.

    No, they smeared themselves. It is YOU that is pushing lies and paranoia. Inversion fallacy.
    Just another GOP witch hunt. And you continue to demonstrate that you have no idea what you're talking about.
    RINO is the term for that rare Republican who puts country above party.

    Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    He actually plays much less golf than Obama. He's actually out accomplishing his campaign promises.

    Denial of history fallacy (revisionism). Obama called the stalled economy 'the new normal'. Obama said domestic manufacturing jobs weren't coming back. Trump is proving Obama wrong.

    Really? Who?

    The fake news doesn't print the truth about anything. It's called the fake news because it's fiction.

    If you wish to continue the conversation, use normal font. You are quickly earning a place on ignore lists (including mine).
    Trump played more golf in his first year than Obama played in 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Doesn't matter. They were born on US soil and Trump was a US citizen.

    8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401
    See Don love, he doesn't do the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    ...so? She's married to a U.S. citizen. She is a U.S. national. Her political jurisdiction is the U.S.
    No shoog, she is a citizen now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    He actually plays much less golf than Obama. He's actually out accomplishing his campaign promises.
    Trump is playing quite a bit more golf than Obama. And it's costing us millions.

    Denial of history fallacy (revisionism). Obama called the stalled economy 'the new normal'. Obama said domestic manufacturing jobs weren't coming back. Trump is proving Obama wrong.
    The economy proved Obama wrong about that. The economy has been posting healthy growth since early 2014. Indeed, 3rd quarter 2014 saw growth of 5%. Something yet to be seen in the Trump economy.
    Really? Who?
    Soybean farmers, for one.
    The fake news doesn't print the truth about anything. It's called the fake news because it's fiction.
    Just about everything we see from this administration is fiction. It's called the fake news because Trump can't tolerate truth.

    If you wish to continue the conversation, use normal font. You are quickly earning a place on ignore lists (including mine).
    It would be an honor to be on your ignore list, You are a devoted Trumptard, with no apparent knowledge of anything and very little connection to reality. And no regard for truth.
    RINO is the term for that rare Republican who puts country above party.

    Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Trump is playing quite a bit more golf than Obama. And it's costing us millions.


    The economy proved Obama wrong about that. The economy has been posting healthy growth since early 2014. Indeed, 3rd quarter 2014 saw growth of 5%. Something yet to be seen in the Trump economy.

    Soybean farmers, for one.

    Just about everything we see from this administration is fiction. It's called the fake news because Trump can't tolerate truth.


    It would be an honor to be on your ignore list, You are a devoted Trumptard, with no apparent knowledge of anything and very little connection to reality. And no regard for truth.
    Trump really has screwed the soybean farmers.. In South Carolina alone they stand to lose $187 million this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Trump really has screwed the soybean farmers.. In South Carolina alone they stand to lose $187 million this year.
    This damage may be irreversible, too

    Many countries have the willingness and they totally have the capacity to take over the market share the U.S. is enjoying in China. If other countries become reliable suppliers for China, it will be very difficult for the U.S. to regain the market,” Han Jun told official Xinhua news agency in an interview on Friday.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pol...t-share-734773



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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Trump is playing quite a bit more golf than Obama. And it's costing us millions.


    The economy proved Obama wrong about that. The economy has been posting healthy growth since early 2014. Indeed, 3rd quarter 2014 saw growth of 5%. Something yet to be seen in the Trump economy.

    Soybean farmers, for one.

    Just about everything we see from this administration is fiction. It's called the fake news because Trump can't tolerate truth.


    It would be an honor to be on your ignore list, You are a devoted Trumptard, with no apparent knowledge of anything and very little connection to reality. And no regard for truth.
    Truer words were never spoken!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rj View Post
    " It's called the fake news because Trump can't tolerate truth. " rj #1210
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    "It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    But their children born in the U. S. are still citizens. There are millions to prove it whether their parent(s) were here legally or illegally.
    No, they aren't. That was a policy implemented by executive order from Pres. Kennedy, in violation of the Constitution.

    Trump is simply reversing this order, so as to be in conformance with the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    No, they aren't. That was a policy implemented by executive order from Pres. Kennedy, in violation of the Constitution.

    Trump is simply reversing this order, so as to be in conformance with the Constitution.
    The constitution grants citizenship to any person born on US soil, with limited exceptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    But it's illegal for Trump, as President, to accept payment for that from any foreign state.
    No, it isn't.
    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Since he has refused to divest himself of those properties, or even put them in a blind trust so he's not involved in managing them, the Constitution would appear to require that foreign dignitaries or any employees of a foreign government stay at Trump properties for free.
    These are legal payments.
    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Which had nothing to do with what he was originally being investigated for. It turned into a witch hunt, something the Republicans seem to have a habit of doing.
    You might want to be careful of that phrase. Hillary not only looks like a witch, she sounds like one. She even cackles like one!
    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Actually, she didn't sell any uranium to anyone.
    Yes she did. She sold uranium to the Russians, in violation of treaty.
    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    ...deleted insult fallacy...
    And exactly how wasn't it legal?
    Violation of treaty. Violation of U.S. law concerning international trade of nuclear material.
    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    More ignorance. ...deleted Holy Link...
    We actually import uranium from Russia.
    No, we don't. We don't need to.
    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    More partisan ignorance.
    Bigotry fallacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    His revelation that she was being investigated could reasonably be expected to have influenced many votes.
    Too bad. What she did she did to herself. Trump didn't order the investigation. He couldn't. He wasn't president at the time.
    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Just another GOP witch hunt. And you continue to demonstrate that you have no idea what you're talking about.
    Inversion fallacy.

    Do not use shouting fonts. That's the fastest way to get on people's ignore lists, including mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    It would be an honor to be on your ignore list, You are a devoted Trumptard, with no apparent knowledge of anything and very little connection to reality. And no regard for truth.
    Done, by request. This discussion is ended.

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