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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    And it was answered.

    Now, get to answering mine or prove yourself to be a coward unwilling to take a stance and do nothing but run his dick sucker like the rest of his kind on this forum.
    Sorry, I don't remember. Which post number?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Sorry, I don't remember. Which post number?
    Too fucking lazy to look, huh? It's been answered. Your refusal to look proves you know it has. You making excuses proves you don't have the guts to answer mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Too fucking lazy to look, huh? It's been answered. Your refusal to look proves you know it has. You making excuses proves you don't have the guts to answer mine.
    Sorry, what do I search for? You have written many posts about the 14th.

    It would only take a short sentence to summarize your view of the original intent of the 14th Amendment. You could have written that sentence in less time than you spent complaining that I won't look it up. You seem too afraid or lazy to give us a concise description of your views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Sorry, what do I search for? You have written many posts about the 14th.

    It would only take a short sentence to summarize your view of the original intent of the 14th Amendment. You could have written that sentence in less time than you spent complaining that I won't look it up. You seem too afraid or lazy to give us a concise description of your views.
    The one where the question was answered.

    The sentence with the answer is short. You could have looked it up in a shorter time than it took to ask the same question that has already been answered. Since it's already been answered, your claim of fear is been determined to be untrue. Since it's been answered and you refuse to look, it proves you're lazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    You contradict yourself. Segregation laws are unconstitutional because the SC interpreted the equal protection clause to make them unconstitutional. Previously, they interpreted that same provision to make (state) segregation laws constitutional.

    If segregation laws are unconstitutional, who makes that interpretation?

    No such thing as constitutional history? (just a few examples).

    American Constitutional History: A Brief Introduction by Jack Fruchtman

    Sources in American Constitutional History by Benedict

    The Contract Clause: A Constitutional History by James W. Jr. Ely

    A Constitutional History of Habeas Corpus by William F Duker

    A Constitutional History of the United States by Andrew C. McLaughlin
    I do not contradict myself at all.
    No court hat the authority to change the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    I do not contradict myself at all.
    No court hat the authority to change the Constitution.
    How did state segregation laws go from being (1) constitutional to (2) unconstitutional?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    How did state segregation laws go from being (1) constitutional to (2) unconstitutional?
    They never were constitutional once the 14th amendment was ratified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Totally wrong but do keep sucking Flash's dick, faggot.
    Why would I do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Sorry, what do I search for? You have written many posts about the 14th.

    It would only take a short sentence to summarize your view of the original intent of the 14th Amendment. You could have written that sentence in less time than you spent complaining that I won't look it up. You seem too afraid or lazy to give us a concise description of your views.
    Why are you fixated on the 'original' intent of the 14th amendment?? The amendment is clearly written. It's meaning has not changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    They never were constitutional once the 14th amendment was ratified.
    What did the Supreme Court rule in Plessy v. Ferguson?

    Since many states had segregation laws for many years, are you claiming those laws were unconstitutional? If so, are you saying there are no checks in the Constitution to prevent states from acting unconstitutionally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Why are you fixated on the 'original' intent of the 14th amendment?? The amendment is clearly written. It's meaning has not changed.
    Because that is what CFM is basing his argument on. You claim the 14th is clearly written. I agree--it says anybody born in the U. S. is a citizen and that has been the law followed ever since.

    CFM says it does not mean what it says because that was not the "original intent." But, I can't get him to explain the original intent. He says he already did, but he has hidden it somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    What did the Supreme Court rule in Plessy v. Ferguson?

    Since many states had segregation laws for many years, are you claiming those laws were unconstitutional? If so, are you saying there are no checks in the Constitution to prevent states from acting unconstitutionally?
    Yes there are. The Supreme Court is but one avenue. They failed to act in a constitutional manner. The Supreme Court is the one that violated the Constitution with that ruling.

    There is also the other States, who also own the Constitution.

    There is also Congress, which failed to act.

    There is also the President and the Dept of Justice, which failed to act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Because that is what CFM is basing his argument on. You claim the 14th is clearly written. I agree--it says anybody born in the U. S. is a citizen and that has been the law followed ever since.
    Not what the 14th amendment says. Read it again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    CFM says it does not mean what it says because that was not the "original intent." But, I can't get him to explain the original intent. He says he already did, but he has hidden it somewhere.
    The meaning of the 14th amendment has not changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    What did the Supreme Court rule in Plessy v. Ferguson?

    Since many states had segregation laws for many years, are you claiming those laws were unconstitutional? If so, are you saying there are no checks in the Constitution to prevent states from acting unconstitutionally?
    The laws should be interpreted as written. Liberel activist judges make their own laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvilleherb View Post
    The laws should be interpreted as written. Liberel activist judges make their own laws.
    As written, the 14th amendment said no state shall deny equal protection under the law. When black schools were clearly inferior to white schools (teacher qualifications were less, etc.) it seems it is being interpreted as written.

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