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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Yes. A child born in the United States can be deported, right along with it's mother.
    Where do you deport a US citizen?

    Link it up, Jethro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Evidence?
    There's tons of evidence for his violations of the emoluments clause. Every foreign player who stayed at a Trump property is evidence.

    Mueller has no evidence, yet he has kept this investigation open for over a year.
    Ken Starr investigated Bill Clinton for four years, and all he came up with was Monica.
    Hillary was selling uranium to the Soviets. She openly operated an email server containing state secrets on an unsecured server. Yet Mueller simply set aside her crimes. These were real instances of treason.
    "These" were real instances of the lies and paranoia that are just about all we ever see from the right. Hillary did not sell uranium to the Soviets. The sale was a perfectly legal one that a committee that she was one member of approved. "the Soviets" (more paranoia. The Soviet Union was dissolved in 1991.) had additional hoops to jump through in order to export any of that uranium. Her use of a private email server was standard State Department practice at the time. And Mueller made the investigation public, when he already knew it wasn't going anywhere and probably handed Trump the election.

    The guy is obviously politically motivated. He has managed to completely discredit himself and unfortunately smeared the reputation of many fine officers of the FBI.
    It's the lies and paranoia from you and the rest of the highly partisan right wing, desperate to discredit any potential critic of your god, Trump, that have smeared the reputation of the FBI and its officers.
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    RINO is the term for that rare Republican who puts country above party.

    Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    So what? No court has the authority to change the Constitution of the United States or of any State.
    You are being deliberately obtuse and just plain stupid.
    RINO is the term for that rare Republican who puts country above party.

    Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Guess all those golf games on our dime are just 'helping others', eh?
    Trump has golfed more, and wasted more of "our dime" on it, and done so on his own properties, thus enriching himself, than Obama even dreamed of doing.

    He ran on a platform of giving the people a voice. He promised he would modify the terrible trade agreements that Obama (and even Clinton) made. He promised to do something about immigration. He promised to bring jobs back to the U.S. He won the election. He is accomplishing what he set out to do. He is serving the people of this great nation.
    He hasn't done anything to accomplish any of that. He's just taking credit for trends that were established before the election. And his trade policies are already hurting farmers.

    Nope. He has only enforced the law on those that break the law. That's his job.
    He complains that he can't use the law against the "fake news" media, called that because they dare to print the truth about him.

    You really have your head buried in the sand, don't you? Not even an ostrich does that!
    You're the one with your head buried in Trump's ass. And you are right about one thing and only one thing. Not even an ostrich would do that.
    RINO is the term for that rare Republican who puts country above party.

    Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Powell
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Are you confused? The 14th amendment doesn't grant naturalized citizenship to foreign nationals.. and has NOTHING to do with naturalization.. But, it does recognize (NOT grant) the US citizenship of children born on US soil under US jurisdiction.
    As SCOTUS has already established, "under the jurisdiction of" does not include diplomats, or other employees of foreign powers, or tourists.
    RINO is the term for that rare Republican who puts country above party.

    Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.


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    The definition of "racist" as "anyone who is white" is itself racist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Powell
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    As SCOTUS has already established, "under the jurisdiction of" does not include diplomats, or other employees of foreign powers, or tourists.
    That's correct.. and it says so clearly in the Statute.

    8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States ...

    www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401

    Has nothing to do with "tourists".. they are also under US jurisdiction not under the jurisdiction of their home countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    If you think "shall" means "should" you have not studied the legal issues surrounding the term or Supreme Court decisions that ruled it means "may" in some provisions.
    If you think that's what I said, you should get someone to read to you what was posted.

    Shall means required. Period. If you don't accept the definition, you're a retard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Please cite the provision that says states can dissolve the Constitution or create a new document without Congress calling for the constitutional convention.

    It certainly is not in Article V.
    You need no provision to dissolve a constitution!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    No the president cannot do executive orders that refute the constitution. The courts would throw it out in a second. The Constitution is the law of the land. EOs cannot overrule that.
    Trump has written no executive order that refutes anything in the Constitution of the United States nor of any State constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    ...removed shouting font...
    There's tons of evidence for his violations of the emoluments clause. Every foreign player who stayed at a Trump property is evidence.
    Did you know it's legal for a foreigner to stay at a Trump property? You're going to have to do better than that!
    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Ken Starr investigated Bill Clinton for four years, and all he came up with was Monica.
    Which had pretty convincing evidence against Bill Clinton, now that you mention it.
    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    "These" were real instances of the lies and paranoia that are just about all we ever see from the right. Hillary did not sell uranium to the Soviets.
    True. She sold it to the Russians.
    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    The sale was a perfectly legal one that a committee that she was one member of approved.
    No, the sale wasn't legal.
    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    "the Soviets" (more paranoia. The Soviet Union was dissolved in 1991.) had additional hoops to jump through in order to export any of that uranium.
    The Russians didn't want to export it. Even if they did, they are in control of it at that point. There are no hoops to jump through.
    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Her use of a private email server was standard State Department practice at the time.
    WRONG. Using a private email server for communicating State Department business is in direct violation of U.S. law.
    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    And Mueller made the investigation public, when he already knew it wasn't going anywhere and probably handed Trump the election.
    No. The electoral college handed Trump the election. Mueller is only one vote.
    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    It's the lies and paranoia from you and the rest of the highly partisan right wing, desperate to discredit any potential critic of your god, Trump, that have smeared the reputation of the FBI and its officers.
    No, they smeared themselves. It is YOU that is pushing lies and paranoia. Inversion fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    ...deleted shouting font...last warning.
    Trump has golfed more, and wasted more of "our dime" on it, and done so on his own properties, thus enriching himself, than Obama even dreamed of doing.
    He actually plays much less golf than Obama. He's actually out accomplishing his campaign promises.
    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    He hasn't done anything to accomplish any of that. He's just taking credit for trends that were established before the election.
    Denial of history fallacy (revisionism). Obama called the stalled economy 'the new normal'. Obama said domestic manufacturing jobs weren't coming back. Trump is proving Obama wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    And his trade policies are already hurting farmers.
    Really? Who?
    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    He complains that he can't use the law against the "fake news" media, called that because they dare to print the truth about him. ...deleted insult fallacy...
    The fake news doesn't print the truth about anything. It's called the fake news because it's fiction.

    If you wish to continue the conversation, use normal font. You are quickly earning a place on ignore lists (including mine).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    You need no provision to dissolve a constitution!
    If your army is big enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    If you think that's what I said, you should get someone to read to you what was posted.

    Shall means required. Period. If you don't accept the definition, you're a retard.
    I accept the definition, the Supreme Court does not. Even Scalia has ruled "shall" means "may" in some cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    That's correct.. and it says so clearly in the Statute.

    8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States ...

    www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401

    Has nothing to do with "tourists".. they are also under US jurisdiction not under the jurisdiction of their home countries.
    Actually, it looks like the statute just repeats the "subject to the jurisdiction" line without explaining it at all.
    RINO is the term for that rare Republican who puts country above party.

    Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Actually, it looks like the statute just repeats the "subject to the jurisdiction" line without explaining it at all.
    Only the US has jurisdiction in the United States... Diplomats are the exception.

    That means ONLY US law is applicable.

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