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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcslobber View Post
    Trump is trying to cover for 13th century barbarism and insulting everyone in the US at the same time.
    He is, Admiral?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    True. For example, my sources there tell me that you have absolutely no connection with the House of Saud.
    LOLOL.. You're pitiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Trump is trying to cover for 13th century barbarism and insulting everyone in the US at the same time.

    Fuck Trump.
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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Address the topic, not other posters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krudzu View Post
    LOLOL.. You're pitiful.
    Odd, they said the same thing about you.

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    I find it HILARIOUS that Rand Paul is running around saying MbS "must go".
    Paul of all people should know it's not our call how other governments constitute themselves.

    I guess Paul's non-interventionism only goes so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Women rule the roost in Arabia.. They make up 67% of university students, control the money and have more business licenses than men. They also write their own marriage contracts.
    So you're saying S.A isn't under Islamic law?
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    I find it HILARIOUS that Rand Paul is running around saying MbS "must go".
    Paul of all people should know it's not our call how other governments constitute themselves.
    Bullshit, we take out governments all the time for not doing the bidding of our Wall Street/donor/"job creator" class, and we militarily support 3/4s of the world's military dictatorships, even when if comes to war crimes.


    The alleged torture, dismemberment and killing of Saudi citizen and US permanent resident Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi embassy in Istanbul has triggered justifiable outrage throughout the United States and around the world. But amid the outcry over Khashoggi’s death, many media and public figures still fail to acknowledge the war crimes Saudi Arabia is committing in Yemen with US assistance.

    Khashoggi, a columnist for The Washington Post, had written critically about the Saudi government and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. The Post reported that Mohammed had recently attempted to lure Khashoggi back to Saudi Arabia in an operation resembling an extrajudicial “rendition,” where a person is forcibly removed from one country and taken to another for interrogation. Bloomberg reported that the United States knew the Saudis planned to seize Khashoggi because US intelligence services had intercepted communications between Saudi officials discussing the plan. According to Turkish sources, participants in Khashoggi’s killing and dismemberment were Saudi operatives.

    Six days after Khashoggi’s disappearance, New York Times columnist Thomas L. Friedman made the astounding claim, “If Jamal has been abducted and murdered by agents of the Saudi government … [i]t would be an unfathomable violation of norms of human decency, worse not in numbers but in principle than even the Yemen war.”





    Friedman’s attempt to minimize the enormity of the carnage, including over 6,000 civilian casualties and the world’s worst humanitarian crisis, resulting from three years of war in Yemen is not uncommon. Vicki Divoll, former CIA attorney and instructor at the US Naval Academy, told The New Yorker’s Jane Mayer in 2009, “People are a lot more comfortable with a Predator [drone] strike that kills many people than with a throat-slitting that kills one.”



    In fact, Saudi Arabia is committing war crimes in Yemen and the US government is aiding and abetting them.
    U.S. Facilitates Saudi War Crimes in Yemen
    https://www.truthdig.com/articles/kh...litated-by-us/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    So you're saying S.A isn't under Islamic law?
    It is to a point.. but most westerners don't know that women have extraordinary rights under Islam.. Far more rights than Western women had up until the 1950s.

    Rights of inheritance and child support and property ownership and divorce and child support... Rights to education.. Its different than Judiasm.. If a Jewish woman had NO son, she was simply sh*t out of luck when it came to property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    U.S. Facilitates Saudi War Crimes in Yemen
    https://www.truthdig.com/articles/kh...litated-by-us/
    Do you know how many Jihadi groups are fighting each other in Yemen and attacking KSA? How long have you been following Yemen? Since 1960? 1970?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    I find it HILARIOUS that Rand Paul is running around saying MbS "must go".
    Paul of all people should know it's not our call how other governments constitute themselves.

    I guess Paul's non-interventionism only goes so far.
    He's 'intervening' in the policies of the US government .. something he gets paid to do by the way.

    Ever heard of sanctions?

    Any idea what they are used for?

    It's us telling other governments what they should do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    It is to a point.. but most westerners don't know that women have extraordinary rights under Islam.. Far more rights than Western women had up until the 1950s.

    Rights of inheritance and child support and property ownership and divorce and child support... Rights to education.. Its different than Judiasm.. If a Jewish woman had NO son, she was simply sh*t out of luck when it came to property.
    How long have western women been able to just drive a car .. or make every decision about how she lives her life by herself?
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    He's 'intervening' in the policies of the US government .. something he gets paid to do by the way.

    Ever heard of sanctions?

    Any idea what they are used for?

    It's us telling other governments what they should do.
    Paul isn't asking for sanctions. He's said we can't live with MbS as the Saudi Crown Prince in charge. He's calling for regime change! ROFL..

    Sanctions never accomplish anything -they just make us feel good, and are usually counter-productive

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Do you know how many Jihadi groups are fighting each other in Yemen and attacking KSA? How long have you been following Yemen? Since 1960? 1970?
    If I recall the fact KSA border guards were being regularly shot got KSA into Yemen

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    "It's us telling other governments what they should do." bc
    And what is it when they murder our journalist?
    "It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    Bullshit, we take out governments all the time for not doing the bidding of our Wall Street/donor/"job creator" class, and we militarily support 3/4s of the world's military dictatorships, even when if comes to war crimes.

    U.S. Facilitates Saudi War Crimes in Yemen
    https://www.truthdig.com/articles/kh...litated-by-us/
    You miss the point. Rand Paul calls himself a non-interventionist.
    It's one reason I've always liked him. He didn't want us in Libya or Syria or Iraq or AfPak either.

    But now he thinks he can dictate who runs KSA

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