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    NOW THAT MEXICO HAS OFFERED THEM ASYLUM, WHAT EXCUSE WILL LIBERALS USE FOR ENCOURAGING THEM TO INVADE AMERICA?

    A caravan of several thousand Honduran migrants on their way to the U.S. breached Mexico’s southern border with Guatemala on Friday.

    Mexican officials said they would grant asylum to the caravan of about 3,000 migrants.

    Most of the migrants plan to go to the U.S. and ask for asylum or try to cross the border illegally.

    President Trump said that, at his request, Mexico was trying to help control the flow of immigrants from neighboring countries, but that he was prepared to use U.S. military force if necessary.

    Adding to pressure on Mexico to prevent the migrants from reaching the U.S. border, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo met with Mexican authorities in Mexico City on Friday. The migrant caravan was at the top of the agenda.

    “We’re prepared to do all that we can to support the decisions that Mexico makes about how they’re going to address this very serious and important issue to their country,” Mr. Pompeo told reporters after meeting with President Enrique Peña Nieto.

    Mexican officials had hoped the offer of asylum would break up the large caravan and persuade many migrants to stay in Mexico. Mexico’s interior minister, Mr. Navarrete, said Mexico will continue with efforts to convince the leaders of the group to assist with the orderly entry of migrants into Mexico and respect the country’s laws.

    Mexico’s effort to offer asylum marks a departure from its handling of previous caravans, when migrants were sometimes given transit visas allowing them to pass through Mexico on their way to the U.S.

    Asylum seekers in the U.S. also face a lengthy and complicated legal process. For those who pass an initial interview, the so-called credible fear bar, will have to prove to an immigration judge that they are likely to face persecution in their home country because of their membership in a particular social group and their government is either unwilling or unable to protect them.

    Many asylum seekers from Central America have said they are fleeing gangs, domestic violence and other crime. Attorney General Jeff Sessions issued a ruling that said "domestic violence" and "threats from gangs" are generally not grounds for winning asylum in the U.S.

    Those who do pass the credible fear bar and are released from immigration jails will face a long wait for their case to be decided. More than 764,000 cases are currently pending in federal immigration courts.


    https://www.wsj.com/articles/migrant-caravan-masses-near-mexican-border-1539952930

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    If they're truly escaping "violence", then they can thrive and have a good life in Mexico. Adios caravan!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    If they're truly escaping "violence", then they can thrive and have a good life in Mexico. Adios caravan!
    Now that they are in no "danger" of being killed by the violence back in their home country (which was precipitated by Hillary's State Department, BTW), what excuse will liberals use to justify their illegal invasion attempt next?

    And before Hillbots leap to deny their Queen's culpability in the wholesale destruction of Honduran society, they should read this: https://www.commondreams.org/views/2...-coup-honduras

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    The left is losing 3,000 votes.

    The cost of living is much cheaper in Mexico. Why doesn’t the left start seeking across the border into Mexico.

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    Escaping violence?
    For what the safe streets of LA, New Orleans, Chicago, Detroit, St Louis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkaffen View Post
    The left is losing 3,000 votes. The cost of living is much cheaper in Mexico. Why doesn’t the left start seeking across the border into Mexico.
    Because the Mexicans have such stringent restrictions on foreign alien residents, I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkaffen View Post
    Escaping violence? For what the safe streets of LA, New Orleans, Chicago, Detroit, St Louis


    It's a flimsy excuse, IMO.

    It's also been disallowed.

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    If I didn't know better I'd think that it was 1000 Republicans dressed up pretending to be humans just to froth up the surly base of grumpy depends wearing dumbshits.

    Christmas comes early for Dump, the evil ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tkaffen View Post
    The left is losing 3,000 votes.

    The cost of living is much cheaper in Mexico. Why doesn’t the left start seeking across the border into Mexico.
    Do you rightys know that they cannot vote? Do you? Many are kids. The rest are not citizens. They do not qualify. Sadly enough, you might. This is another vulpine meme with no basis in fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Now that they are in no "danger" of being killed by the violence back in their home country (which was precipitated by Hillary's State Department, BTW), what excuse will liberals use to justify their illegal invasion attempt next?

    And before Hillbots leap to deny their Queen's culpability in the wholesale destruction of Honduran society, they should read this: https://www.commondreams.org/views/2...-coup-honduras
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    It's a revolving door of money.
    Absolutely no reason for Dems to keep rejecting the Dreamers compromise offer and get the wall with tough security.
    They've rejected every reasonable bi-partisan offer for years because they think they see liberal voters coming in here...it's not about any heartfelt compassion for these people.

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    October 18, 2018
    Illegal Caravans Encouraged by Honduras and Soros
    By Daniel John Sobieski

    Just in time for the midterms, another "spontaneous" migration from Central America began with a bevy of allegedly oppressed and downtrodden Hondurans leading the way. Pressured by a threat from President Trump to cut aid to Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador if the caravan is not stopped, some moves by these governments have been made. Yet evidence exists that these migrations are not spontaneous, with both of the governments in question encouraging them as a political and economic safety valve and a source of foreign currency, financed in part by foreign leftists with connections to George Soros.

    As Fox News's Laura Ingraham noticed in a tweet, this is not a walk in a national park, but an expensive and arduous journey:

    Who is funding the migrant "caravan"? Each migrant's passage can cost as much as $7K each. Per capita income Honduras is $2.3 K.

    It is doubtful that such sums came from the kiddies' college funds. Evidence of Soros funding of an earlier "spontaneous" migration have been found among the tentacles of support that flow from his Open Society group coffers:

    Leftist billionaire George Soros is funding the well-organized anti-Trump migrant caravan invasion from Central America that has been hitting the United States-Mexico border in defiance of immigration enforcement.

    Several major ultra-liberal foundations and corporations have supported the asylum-seeking migrant caravans, and Soros' funding has been tied to several groups that have spearheaded the "refugee" invasion coalition – also dubbed "the Soros Express."

    "The caravan is organized by a group called Pueblo Sin Fronteras, ut the effort is supported by the coalition CARA Family Detention Pro Bono Project, which includes Catholic Legal Immigration Network (CLIN), the American Immigration Council (AIC), the Refugee and Immigration Center for Education and Legal Services (RICELS) and the American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) – thus the acronym CARA," WND reported. "At least three of the four groups are funded by George Soros' Open Society Foundation."

    The hands of the Honduran government are not clean in these efforts. Among the alleged asylum-seekers parked on the U.S. border is a contingent of Hondurans, allegedly fleeing persecution, poverty, crime, and oppression. If that is the case, why is the Honduran government helping them, driving them northward under orders given to the Honduran ambassador, who is helping and escorting them?

    Leaders of a caravan of Central American migrants traveling toward the United States through Mexico have repeatedly accused the Honduran government of corruption and with failing to address the poverty, crime and economic conditions forcing families to flee by the thousands.

    So it shocked some observers when the Honduran ambassador joined the migrants protesting outside the Honduran embassy in Mexico City on Wednesday, and then accepted their invitation to walk 9 miles to a migrant shelter.

    "I have been ordered by my government to support the Honduran migrants traveling with the caravan. There are about 200 Hondurans who we will help out with paperwork and whatever is necessary," Alden Rivera Montes, the Honduran ambassador to Mexico, told El Universal.

    Ordered by my government? Why is the country whose oppression they are allegedly fleeing helping them leave? The answer is remittances, the money sent back home by so-called "migrants." Asylum is in large part a colossal scam designed to provide Latin American countries with a political and economic safety valve and a cash cow of foreign exchange. In 2017, remittances sent back to Honduras totaled $4.33 billion and make up a significant part of the Honduran economy:


    Within the span of a few short decades, migrants have become an essential engine of economic support for Honduras. Remittances comprised 17 percent of the nation's gross domestic product (GDP) in 2011, according to World Bank estimates, the second largest share of any country in Latin America or the Caribbean. As such, Honduran emigrants have tremendous significance for the country's economy and for the sustenance of many otherwise impoverished communities and families.

    Talk about a trade imbalance. We import alleged asylum-seekers and other illegal aliens, and they send home billions sucked out of a benevolent U.S. government and economy. We have an economy that has some 7.3 million jobs going unfilled because of a shortage of skilled workers. Judging from photos of the latest caravan, one would suggest a paucity of welders, pipefitters, electricians, and long-haul truck-drivers.

    Inner-city blacks have long asked which country they get to go to to escape violence and poverty. Although President Trump is succeeding in fighting crime and increasing job opportunities in our urban areas, much remains to be done. We do not need to be importing low-wage and low-skilled competitors to American citizens to drive down poor workers' wages. Inner-city residents have long asked, where's our sanctuary?

    Unlike the children of Central America, arriving en masse, the children of Chicago, facing conditions every bit as horrible, have no border to cross to seek asylum or refuge[.] ...

    "Do something for our children," said one of the protesters in a video posted at the blog Rebel Pundit. "Have the same love for these young people like you got for the ones across the border, and you want to save them." ...

    A woman, identified only as Elaine, explained the plight of inner-city Baltimore residents on Laura Ingraham's radio show: "My children cannot play outside. I cannot take my trash out without locking the door – it's awful. Who is going to give us anything? Where can I get asylum? Where can I get refugee status?"

    Where, indeed? Perhaps this side of a border wall Democrats oppose in favor of sanctuary cities and Medicare for illegal aliens. If any of the alleged asylum-seekers want to learn a trade – how about a crash course in border wall construction? Build it, and they won't come.

    Daniel John Sobieski is a freelance writer whose pieces have appeared in Investor's Business Daily, Human Events, Reason Magazine, and the Chicago Sun-Times among other publications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post


    NOW THAT MEXICO HAS OFFERED THEM ASYLUM, WHAT EXCUSE WILL LIBERALS USE FOR ENCOURAGING THEM TO INVADE AMERICA?

    A caravan of several thousand Honduran migrants on their way to the U.S. breached Mexico’s southern border with Guatemala on Friday.

    Mexican officials said they would grant asylum to the caravan of about 3,000 migrants.

    Most of the migrants plan to go to the U.S. and ask for asylum or try to cross the border illegally.

    President Trump said that, at his request, Mexico was trying to help control the flow of immigrants from neighboring countries, but that he was prepared to use U.S. military force if necessary.

    Adding to pressure on Mexico to prevent the migrants from reaching the U.S. border, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo met with Mexican authorities in Mexico City on Friday. The migrant caravan was at the top of the agenda.

    “We’re prepared to do all that we can to support the decisions that Mexico makes about how they’re going to address this very serious and important issue to their country,” Mr. Pompeo told reporters after meeting with President Enrique Peña Nieto.

    Mexican officials had hoped the offer of asylum would break up the large caravan and persuade many migrants to stay in Mexico. Mexico’s interior minister, Mr. Navarrete, said Mexico will continue with efforts to convince the leaders of the group to assist with the orderly entry of migrants into Mexico and respect the country’s laws.

    Mexico’s effort to offer asylum marks a departure from its handling of previous caravans, when migrants were sometimes given transit visas allowing them to pass through Mexico on their way to the U.S.

    Asylum seekers in the U.S. also face a lengthy and complicated legal process. For those who pass an initial interview, the so-called credible fear bar, will have to prove to an immigration judge that they are likely to face persecution in their home country because of their membership in a particular social group and their government is either unwilling or unable to protect them.

    Many asylum seekers from Central America have said they are fleeing gangs, domestic violence and other crime. Attorney General Jeff Sessions issued a ruling that said "domestic violence" and "threats from gangs" are generally not grounds for winning asylum in the U.S.

    Those who do pass the credible fear bar and are released from immigration jails will face a long wait for their case to be decided. More than 764,000 cases are currently pending in federal immigration courts.


    https://www.wsj.com/articles/migrant-caravan-masses-near-mexican-border-1539952930

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    Your not telling the entire true. Your such a stupid dick head I can understand.

    Illegals can not vote in federal elections at this time. If Democrats have their way I can see amnesty followed to a path of citizenship.

    There are states that allow undocumented immigrants to vote.
    Here in California San Francisco allowed undocumented immigrants to vote Proposition N which now allows undocumented parents to vote in school board elections.
    In Maryland they allow undocumented immigrants to vote in municipal elections.

    How do you prevent vote fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    It's a revolving door of money.
    Absolutely no reason for Dems to keep rejecting the Dreamers compromise offer and get the wall with tough security.
    They've rejected every reasonable bi-partisan offer for years because they think they see liberal voters coming in here...it's not about any heartfelt compassion for these people.

    ***********

    October 18, 2018
    Illegal Caravans Encouraged by Honduras and Soros
    By Daniel John Sobieski

    Just in time for the midterms, another "spontaneous" migration from Central America began with a bevy of allegedly oppressed and downtrodden Hondurans leading the way. Pressured by a threat from President Trump to cut aid to Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador if the caravan is not stopped, some moves by these governments have been made. Yet evidence exists that these migrations are not spontaneous, with both of the governments in question encouraging them as a political and economic safety valve and a source of foreign currency, financed in part by foreign leftists with connections to George Soros.

    ...Leftist billionaire George Soros is funding the well-organized anti-Trump migrant caravan invasion from Central America that has been hitting the United States-Mexico border in defiance of immigration enforcement.

    Several major ultra-liberal foundations and corporations have supported the asylum-seeking migrant caravans, and Soros' funding has been tied to several groups that have spearheaded the "refugee" invasion coalition – also dubbed "the Soros Express."

    "The caravan is organized by a group called Pueblo Sin Fronteras, ut the effort is supported by the coalition CARA Family Detention Pro Bono Project, which includes Catholic Legal Immigration Network (CLIN), the American Immigration Council (AIC), the Refugee and Immigration Center for Education and Legal Services (RICELS) and the American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) – thus the acronym CARA," WND reported. "At least three of the four groups are funded by George Soros' Open Society Foundation."

    <snip>
    “But a lot of money has been passing to people to come up and try and get to the border by Election Day, because they think that’s a negative for us. … They have lousy policy. The one thing, they stick together, but they wanted that caravan and there are those that say that caravan didn’t just happen. It didn’t just happen. A lot of reasons that caravan, 4,000 people.”
    President Trump, at a campaign rally in Missoula, Mont. on Thursday

    THE FACTS


    This lacks evidence.


    A caravan of migrants is traveling north toward Mexico and the United States — and prompting alarm and false claims from Mr. Trump and Rep. Matt Gaetz, Republican of Florida.

    There is no evidence that George Soros, a billionaire and major Democratic donor, paid thousands of migrants to “storm.” Nor is there evidence that Democrats support the effort,

    Mr. Gaetz is wrong about several things in his description of the video he posted.

    First, it was not shot in Honduras, which he later acknowledged. Google Maps and Facebookphotos place the storefront seen in the video, an auto parts shop, in Chiquimula, Guatemala. As Kirk Semple of The New York Times reported, the migrant caravan was formed last week in San Pedro Sula, Honduras, and has made its way north through Guatemala...

    Second, Mr. Gaetz’s speculation that the migrants were being offered cash to join the caravan by Mr. Soros is unfounded. Open Society Foundations, Mr. Soros’s philanthropic organization,


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