Rune (10-19-2018)
Rune (10-19-2018)
Deficts and Debt was one of the primary issues for Republicans throughout the Obama years, least they said it was one of their major concerns. Keep in mind that Obama faced two wars, an unpaid prescription plan, and a historical recession with decreasing tax revenue coming in. In later years as the economy improved, Obama cut back on discretionary spending in attempts to reduce deficits
Trump gets elected and inherits an advancing economy and rather than continue as is with a substantial debt grants a major tax cut while increasing spending. Simply looking at what goes out and what comes in dictates blowing up an already major debt. Examining entitlements has to come next, which many thought was the goal of the tax cut
Trump's economic policy is nuts, short term gain aimed at getting elected in 2020, long term pain thereafter
PoliTalker (10-17-2018), Rune (10-19-2018)
Trump could pass it, and the difference is Obama created the debt dealing with two wars, anunpaid drug prescription program, and a historical recession. Trump, inherited an advancing economy not a recession, one war is over and the other dwindling, and he goes ahead and blows up the debt by creating a stimulus for the upper income brackets in the country
Even a high school economics students can see the difference and the consequences
I guess you missed 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012 when the Budget deficits were in the trillions right snowflake?
Did you also miss when the Democrats were finally kicked totally to the curb in 2012 and Republicans controlled the Congress, deficits started going down dramatically?
I guess you also missed that the full effect of Obamacare and Obamunism took effect in 2017 after Obama left office. Gee, I wonder why?
But not to worry snowflakes; Trump hasn't even been here two years. He has asked his cabinet heads to come back with 5% cuts in their budgets. It's a great start.
Now you need to worry about Democrats taking back the House. If that occurs, expect the deficits and pain to become much greater.
ObamaCare. That's why. Dunce. It didn't come into full effect until Obama was out of office. Great timing don't you think?
Last edited by Truth Detector; 10-17-2018 at 04:04 PM.
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Author: Booker T. Washington
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Rune (10-19-2018)
Projected spending and estimated doesn't equate to lower spending levels fool. Do you have a link to the data you are claiming here? I can't find anything that supports the notion we will be spending LESS.
Link?
Link?
Mandatory spending is currently estimated to be $2.739 trillion for FY 2019. The two largest mandatory programs are Social Security and Medicare. That's 62 percent of all federal spending. It's also three times more than the military budget.
The FY 2019 budget estimates it will cost $1.046 trillion.
Medicare will cost $625 billion in FY 2019.
Medicaid costs will be $412 billion in FY 2019.
All other mandatory programs will cost $656 billion. Most of these are income support programs provide federal assistance for those who can't provide for themselves.
https://www.thebalance.com/current-f...ending-3305772
Can't be; revenue has not declined. Therefore, it is a SPENDING problem not a revenue problem. Dunce.
I guess you don't know this, but those are projections and the OMB has NEVER gotten ANY projections right EVER. FOOL.
What we won't fall for is your laughable bullshit snowflake. Mandatory spending takes up 62% of the budgets. You cannot reduce them; they are mandatory by law. The defense budget is NOT the problem. Fool.
The tax reductions did not cause this. Revenue is HIGHER. BUT, SPENDING continues to outpace revenue. Therefore, we have a SPENDING problem.
One last thing, Corporations don't pay taxes. As a rule, ALL their costs are passed onto the consumers. Next time Democrats demand raising taxes on corporations, thank them for raising YOUR taxes. Fool.
Fascinating how you leftist liars never seemed concerned at all about the massive deficit spending Obama engaged in. Now, suddenly, you're not merely demanding you take the moral high ground for the very first time, but the fiscally disciplined ground. STFU, seriously.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
It wasn't Reagan; it was the Democratic controlled House run by Tipsy O'Neil you moron. He declared ALL of Reagan's budgets DOA.
But NOTHING compares to the deficits Obama ran; why didn't you care back then? STFU, seriously.
That is a lie; as a result of Clinton's policies with a Democratically controlled Congress, the American people then elected a Republican majority in Congress for the first time in four decades. After that, they managed to balance the budget and bring down deficits.
I do wish you had a brain and weren't a hyper partisan dumbass in steroids.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
Hello cawacko,
You're pretty good at the spin game yourself, cawacko. Always finding the angle that leans right. (I do think that is more challenging than succinctly presenting just the right facts, like Oneuli does. And presenting it in a professional way. If you don't work for the Republicans it is a good thing for the nation.
There aren't many of us here who stay clean, but you two do it while still talking to the foulest-mouthed trolls on both sides. Very commendable.
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Historical facts say you're full of bullshit snowflake.
Obama's first budget year with a Democratically controlled Congress the deficit hit an all time record of $1.413 trillion liar. His second budget year with a Democratically controlled congress it hit $1.295 trillion.
His third budget year hit $1.299 trillion. After Republicans took the house that deficit started to decline.
There you go with that tired old bullshit again. Poor Obama.
Of course you hate tax cuts; you're a math challenged dullard who thinks we have a revenue problem and cannot comprehend it is actually a SPENDING problem.
The only policies that have proven to be successful were when BillyBob and Obama accomplished what no other Democrats had accomplished up until then; losing the House and the Senate to Republicans.
I can't believe you're this stupid and ignorant of the facts.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
It doesn't occur to you, or you're just a pathological lying a-hole, is that it actually started being reduced when Republicans took over the Congress. What also doesn't occur to you, or you're just a pathological lying a-hole, is that Obamacare came in full force at the beginning of 2017 after Obama left. Thank you Obama.
Revenue is up; but SPENDING is outpacing revenue.
I am going to try to educate you with a simple formula: When taxes are reduced, people have more money to spend. More spending equals more production. More production equals more jobs. More jobs equals more taxpayers. More taxpayers equals higher tax revenue.
We have a SPENDING problem in this country. Not a tax reduction problem or a revenue problem. Dunce.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
Poor Obama; so he lied when he said he could bring the economy back with hopey changey didn't he?
Translation: Trump gets elected and suddenly leftists who never gave a shit about morality, suddenly demand the high ground and who never gave a shit about record deficits under Obamunism are now suddenly deficit hawks.
STFU, seriously.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
"Obama cut back spending". Now why did that happen? It wasn't by choice, as he and you wanted more stimulus. Remember the supposed Republican austerity and the party of no? That was because the Republican congress would not approve additional stimulus spending. Again, it's just a few years later and you're spinning a new tail
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