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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Which is why they use a global mean temperature
    Math error. Margin of error not calculated. Failure to select independent of influencing factors. Failure to select by randN. Failure to normalize by paired randR.

    You want to avoid the math errors? You must first determine how many thermometers are used to measure the temperature of the Earth.
    They must be uniformly placed. Location grouping introduces bias.
    They must be read at the same time. Storms move. The Earth spins. Non-simultaneous readings introduces bias.

    But first, how many thermometers are used? To calculate the margin of error, you must use that number along with an observed temperature gradient. Personally, I have seen on several occasions temperature gradients as steep as 20 deg F per mile.

    So...how many thermometers are used?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    They have proven science that extrapolates the temperature. Real science from scientific method not the so called greenhouse effect.
    For a satellite to gain any idea of temperature, you must use the Stefan-Boltzmann law. This law has a term for emissivity, which is a measured constant. The emissivity of Earth is unknown. To measure emissivity, you must first accurately know the temperature of the surface you are measuring. Chicken and egg problem.

    Science is not a 'method' or a 'procedure'. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. The only difference between a theory of science and any other theory is the test of falsifiability. It is that test and that test alone that takes a theory beyond the simple circular argument. No theory is ever proven. Proofs do not exist in an open functional system like science. They only exist in a closed functional system like mathematics or logic.

    The so-called 'greenhouse effect' is not a theory, scientific or otherwise. It is based on a void argument (the meaningless buzzword 'global warming'). No theory can be based on a fallacy. Further, the so-called 'greenhouse effect' argument itself violates the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics as well as the Stefan-Boltzmann law. It also builds a paradox.

    No satellite can measure the absolute temperature. The emissivity is unknown, and the satellite can only measure light. They CAN, however, measure relative temperatures reasonably well. This is the actual mission of these satellites. It is useful information for monitoring the effects of relative temperatures when studying the weather, air currents, and ocean currents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Perhaps you ought to read this paper written by Roy Spencer, John Christy, and William Braswell then.

    http://www.drroyspencer.com/2015/04/...-0-11-cdecade/
    I have. He simply accepts the satellite data. The problem is that a satellite cannot measure the temperature of the Earth. It can only measure light. To get any idea of temperature, you must use the Stefan-Boltzmann law. That law has a term for emissivity. This is a measured constant. The emissivity of Earth is unknown. To measure it, you must first accurately know the temperature of it. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth, not even with satellites, because you don't know the temperature of the Earth to calculate emissivity!

    These satellites are useful. Their unique eye-in-the-sky view is great at measuring relative temperatures, but they cannot measure an absolute temperature. This information does not tell us the temperature of the Earth, but it does allow us to track air and ocean currents more accurately as well as assist in monitoring the weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Math error. Margin of error not calculated. Failure to select independent of influencing factors. Failure to select by randN. Failure to normalize by paired randR.

    You want to avoid the math errors? You must first determine how many thermometers are used to measure the temperature of the Earth.
    They must be uniformly placed. Location grouping introduces bias.
    They must be read at the same time. Storms move. The Earth spins. Non-simultaneous readings introduces bias.

    But first, how many thermometers are used? To calculate the margin of error, you must use that number along with an observed temperature gradient. Personally, I have seen on several occasions temperature gradients as steep as 20 deg F per mile.

    So...how many thermometers are used?
    This is the main reason the tool of the alarmists is faulty.
    Satellite data is uniform globally. Satellites are quite useful to do this sort of thing and scientificly proven.

    Note i was only correcting your notion of them referring to a single temp. Noone ever claimed this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    What's an NPC?
    Non-Player Character. It is a character in a game that the player may interact with, but does not control. Some people use this to refer to mindless commenters on forums. It's an insult to some commenters. In this case, it is not specified who the insult is specifically directed toward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Satellite do not measure temperature but indirectly by monitoring the thermal microwave emission from atmospheric oxygen in the 50-60 GHz oxygen absorption band.
    Emissivity is unknown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Never was big on Dungeons and Dragons, my sons love all that stuff.
    NPCs appear in pretty much any role playing game, both dice, card, and electronic games (such as the Zelda series by Nintendo or the Assassin's Creed series by Ubisoft).

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    10 World is ending at (______)
    20 After _____, World is ending at (_____)
    30 Goto 10
    Heh. This is shorter than the program for a housefly:

    10 fly
    20 if hit_something land
    30 else goto 10
    40 if smell_good eat_it, lay_eggs_in_it
    50 if you see something move goto 10
    60 goto 40

    repeat until dead
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    Oh give us a fucking break!

    You are talking about the official Climatologist for the Rush Limbaugh Show and the Faux News Channel!

    Spencer has been proven wrong so many time, that he is a joke now in the Scientific world!

    Talk about the blind leading the blind! LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    proof that civilization only exists in capital city. Thankfully your sons grew up civilized.
    D&D is civilized??

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Man warms seas- seas feed hurricane- hurricane slams Man .

    Morons are struggling with the solution.
    Man can't warm the seas even if he wanted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Seems to me that climatologists are just meteorologists with more courses on statistics.
    Nope. Climatologists deny both math and science. They specifically deny statistical math. The specifically deny the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law. They may have taken the classes, but they don't use them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Nope. Climatologists deny both math and science. They specifically deny statistical math. The specifically deny the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law. They may have taken the classes, but they don't use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    This is the main reason the tool of the alarmists is faulty.
    Correct. The Church of Global Warming denies statistical math.
    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Satellite data is uniform globally. Satellites are quite useful to do this sort of thing and scientificly proven.
    There are no proofs in science. No theory, scientific or otherwise, is ever proven. A theory will remain a theory until it is destroyed by falsification.
    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Note i was only correcting your notion of them referring to a single temp. Noone ever claimed this.
    The Church of Global Warming is constantly pointing to NASA, NOAA, and IPCC temperature data. These are claims of a single temperature of the Earth, taken at different times. It is not possible to obtain such a temperature. We have nowhere near enough thermometers to do it. What we do have is not uniformly placed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    You're a blubbering vagina, and a dried up one at that.
    EEEewwwwwww!
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